by all former faults @ make noe complaint against him. I not only told him this myself but from time to time sent messages to him to this effect sometimes by such of the council as were his particular friends sometimes by the ministers @ often by the Secratary but all to noe purpose hee still continued obstinate

And what returns hee made mee to these several instances of my kindness I shall not now trouble your Lops with

Nevertheless I forbare doing any thing further against him till the expiration of the second audit proposing that then when I could know the whole amount of his debt I would at once doe my best to secure the Kings concerns from sustaining any loss by him

At last hee brought in a book without being signed and said he could not lieve them neither, they being to bee sent over to Mr Blathwayt Whereupon we were forct to give him 3 weeks longer to get them copied @ then with great adoe he signed them @ brought in with them an acct called a general acct, an acct so extravagant that your Lops have hardly seen thee like

Then I pressing the auditors to make an end they desired that they might have his papers to compare with those books @accomps he had delivered in, which by order of council hee was required to deliver to them. But hee refusing as appears by the testimony of 3 of the auditors herewith sent, It was ordered that his said papers should bee seized @ he suspended from the sd of fice of collector @ receiver till his Matys pleasure should be known thereon @ hee taken into the Sheriffs custody and there remain till hee should give in such security as in the said orders is expressed as relation to the said orders had, may more at large appear

Upon search of the Pap's relating to his Matys revenue I found a charge drawn against myself with letters to his Maty Lord T'sear Lord Chancelor @ several other gentlemen stuft with complaints against me and other p'sons which are wholly false

Indeed its true the poor gentleman since his coming here has been troubled with 3 or 4 hypocondriack fitts, hee was in one of them when his Matys nomination of the Council came over upon which they all thought it not convenient to have him sworn at

least at that time as your Lopps will see by the minutes of councill

And my Lords to bee short I must say this of him hes a man wholly unfit for business especially this wherein hee has noe more skill than a child, Soe that for the executing of it hee must have his whole dependance on another. I am sure if I had not taken more care of the Revenue than hee did since I found his failure it had been more embezled than it is for though hee received the money I was obliged to continual watching to guard against his carelessness @ neglects

And truly what hee takes very ill what there is neither president nor establishment for

In his commission hee has allowed him £200 pr annum the same allowance that Dyer had in the time of St Edmond Andros of which £100 was for the Surveyor Comptroller @ Waiter therefore I finding no new establishment allow him no more than Dyer had for him @ his officers Salary it being the sentiment of the Council that I could not alter the former practice with which they were well acquainted But he gives himself a far larger allowance hee will have it that his salary is sterling; @ to make it so of this country money he charges three @ thirty Pr cent advance @ one hundred pound more for his two under officers, Besides this Mr Smith being his Deputy-Surveyor @ Book-keeper, hee would have allowance to him of £50 pr ann as his deputy £40 Pr ann as his accomptant £30 Pr ann for his transcribing his books £20 Pr annum Pr his diet besides his salary for Surveyor, For John Harlow hee would have allowed £30 Pr ann as waiter, £48 Pr ann as being employed by him in the Kings service where or how noe man Knows £20 pr ann for his Diet and £162 and two voyages made into England with despatches for his Maty all this @ a great deal more such for his officers in the country, @ the like your Lops will see in his last general acct a copy whereof is herewith sent,

Notwithstanding hee charges the King soe largely for his offi cers salaries, to some of them hee has paid nothing at all insomuch as they are making very great clamor for their money, @ not getting it from him expect it from the King

Of his own head hee bought a little rotten tool of a sloop on pretence for his Matys service, which as your Lops may see by their audit, has stood the King in near £700 @ now cannot be sold for thirty soe must either bee laid up or burnt

In his instructions @ by several orders from me @ the council he was expressly forbid to trust out his Maty revenue notwithstanding I was forc't to take notes from him to the value of £800. besides a great many more which hee pretends still to bee standing out as your Lops will perceive by the audit

Hee has likewise been negligent in taking the bonds required by the laws of the Goverment from the masters of ships one ill consequence whereof has been the New York Pink has carried off several Elephants teeth without entry, @ the bond being inquired for there was none taken, How hee has behaved himself touching an Interloper that came in hither I have already given Sr Benj. Bathurst an account, and as for the debts for him pretended to too the auditors upon enquiry the most of them are found to bee received by him. and I beleive of thee rest, the twentieth part will never be had, they are soe ill

And besides notwithstanding his confused way of accounting @being without a cheque upon him as aforesaid, he is found by his own accounts brought into the audit to bee £1758. 15 shillings threepence and gths of a penny in debt to the King as your Lops may see by the said audit which (as is to bee feared) is all gone besides his salary and pquisits, on which he might have lived very handsomely

Hee (as hee hath all along done) does to all persons he converseth with speak scurrilously @abusively of me @ ye Council which considering his circumstances we let pass without taking any notice of

Hee is likewise very troublesome to the present management of his Maty customs

I desire that as soon as may bee I may know what his Maty pleasure is should bee done with him, what acct I have here given yr Lopps of him is as moderate as may bee farr short of what I might have represented @ yet have spoken nothing but the truth. What I have done has not been out of malice, for I beare none

to him rather pitty, but purely with an intent to doe his Maty service@to secure his interest, as I doubt not will appear to yr LOPPS and if I bee to bee blamed for any thing in the Series of this affair its for too much forbearance

Thus my Lords I have given you as good an account of the Revenue received, @ by whom as I can, as alsoe how the same in a great part of it has been mismanaged and by what meanes I shall therefore now proceed to give your Lopps an estimate of what charge the maintenance of this Govermt has been hitherto to mee @ what will bee requisite for its further support

Its a very hard thing upon mee that coming over hither in troublesome times, finding noe revenue established @ yet having three garrisons to look after @ the forts in the condition before mentioned, @ finding such contest between the Governmt of Canada @this about the Beaver Trade the Inland Country @ the Indians, to purchase, as I was obliged by my instructions, sixty odd miles, upon Hudsons River 17 or 18 into the land in one place from the Indians. In another place up the River 16 miles And on the south side of Long-Island twelve miles to give a great deal to the Indians for Susquehanna River to bee at great expences on the Assembly at their first sitting when they gave the revenue @ on the Lord Howard of Effingham when here with his train Governor Pen, commisioners from Boston @ other colonies, the Govr of Connecticut East @ West Jersey, the running the line between this @ East Jersey and the like between Connecticut and this, tho' that last not yet finished besides the establishment as will appear by my books when audited @ sent over, which shall be by the very first conveniency, @ had been long ere now, had I got Mr Santens sooner done

In the meantime yr Lops may bee capable of making an estimate of the constant charge of the Govermt by the calculation thereof herewith sent in which you see that there is set down yearly for the Council Judges @ Attorney General which tho' not at present allowed in my opinion with submission to your Lops there is a necessity there should The Councilors being persons obliged to a constant attendance from their own business @ the judges such as devote themselves wholly to that service@

whose present salary is soe small to support them @ their familys in that station as is set forth in their petition which I have herewith sent to his Maty for his consideration, neither can the Attorney-generals small perquisites bee able to maintain him in going thro his Matys concerns, which takes up his whole time, without the addition of such salary as his Maty shall think fitt to allow

Your LoP taking all this into yr consideration, cannot but think his Maty must be in debt, which however would not have been very much had Mr Santen done his duty

What revenue there is is with the ease @ satisfaction of the people @ paid without grumbling, tho' as much as modesty can bee put upon them

Soe that if Connecticut bee not added to the Goverm1 it can be hardly able to support itself. But if it bee added, thee revenue will bee sufficient to keep the King wholly out of debt

Mr Santen taxes me with covetousness in not allowing sufficiently to the officers employed. Niggardly I have not been, but the revenue being soe small @ having soe great a charge, I endeavored to bee as good a husband for the King as I could I'm sure better than I ever was for myself. And truly I have been put soe to it to make things doe that what small pquisits I got, I have disburst, @ not only soe, but have been forc❜t to engage my credit soe far as t'would goe @ that not sparing to pawn my plate for money to carry on the Kings affairs @ now I have sent some of it home by Mr Sprag to reimburse Sr Ben Bathurst what hee has paid for mee, @ to provide clothes for the soldiers @ some things for my own use

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Now My Lords before I proceed to answer the rest Capt Sunter's of your queries I will take occasion here to give your Lops satisfaction as to those articles Mr Santer has been pleased to draw up against mee, a copie whereof I herewith send for yr Lopps perusal the scope of which being to charge me with mismanagement of his Matys affairs, I thought noe place more proper for my making appear the falsity of his accusation than here, wherein I have been soe long treating of the mismanagement of the revenue in which this man himself had soe large a