State if you have not heard in the neighborhood of Phipps, that he had been charged or convicted of perjury? Answer—Mr. Phipps told me himself that at Vicksburgh, Miss., he was charged with perjury, and duly acquitted. Question by Mr. LASSELLE Did Phipps make his affidavit against Horton before you, and if so, what did he do with it? Answer-He made the affidavit before me as Notary Public, and I left it in his hands. Question by Mr. LASSELLE Did you or did you not at any time retain that affidavit in hands? your Answer-I left it in the possession of Phipps and T. W. Wilson. It was in Wilson's office that I wrote it. I don't know which one took it. Question by Mr. LASSELLE Did you not at the time tell Phipps that you would retain the affidavit and have it sent to Marshal Rose? Answer--I am quite sure I did not. DWIGHT KLINCK. JAMES CROSBIE (WELLS COUNTY) SWORN. General Question in chief by Mr. MORGAN——— Answer--My name is James Crosbie; aged forty-two years; occupation a farmer, and reside in Wells county, Indiana. Question by Mr. MORGAN— Do you know John Phipps, and are you acquainted with his general moral character? Answer-I am not much acquainted with him personally. I have known him personally since the first of October last. He has a good moral character so far as I know. Question by Mr. BAKER— Are you acquainted with Dr. Horton? Answer-Yes sir. Question by Mr. BAKER Had you ever heard him say any thing in opposition to the war or against enlistments prior to his arrest? Answer-Yes; I heard him make a speech in Nottingham township, Wells county, on the evening of October the second, 1862, in which he said, "Mr. Phipps has asked you to volunteer. Did he get any? No, not one. You was not going to volunteer under such a policy. I always knew that this was an Abolition war; and since the Proclamation of the President it has topped it with the Abolition climax. He then proceeded to reply to the speech of Jetmore, defending Voorhees' speech, said where is the Democrat but what would do the same thing-stand up between the tax payer and the tax gatherer. You are earning your money by the sweat of your brow, and they are stealing it from you." Dr. Horton did not rise to address this meeting until after the conclusion of Jetmore's speech and the appeal of Phipps for volunteers was over. He passed to the stand to speak, from one to three minutes In the after Phipps had concluded, and no volunteers offered. speech of Horton, I will add, he also said (holding a paper in his hand wrapped up as a ballot) we will kill off the Abolitionists with these (meaning the ballots), reinstate the Democratic party, and go South and shoot down the Rebels with bullets. CROSS EXAMINATION. Question by Mr. SHOAFF Did Dr. Horton, in the speech you allude to, denounce the policy of the war, or the war itself? Answer-So far as I understood him, it was the policy of the war. JAMES CROSBIE. ABRAHAM STAHL (BLACKFORD COUNTY) SWORN. General question in chief by Mr. MORGAN My name is Abraham Stahl; aged fifty-three years; occupation a farmer; and reside in Blackford county, Indiana. Question by Mr. MORGAN C. A. A.-11 State what you know about the draft-box being mashed, at Hartford City, and who participated in it? Answer-On the sixth of October, the day of the attempted draft, I was in the court house. While they were making prepa-. rations a dispute arose between Sheriff Brickley and Frash, Provost Marshall, as to which of them should place the tickets in the box. During the dispute, Brickley asked Frash which had the right to place the tickets in the box, and Frash answered that he had the right—that Stanton's order was superceded by that of Governor Morton. Brickley then left the stand, having said that he would have nothing more to do with it. When the box was mashed I heard the crash, but did not see who done it. When the box was mashed there was hallooing and cheering in the house. I saw Jesse Williams with a piece of the box in his hands. I can not designate the persons who hallooed and cheered. Question by Mr. FERRIS Did you see any body making demonstrations there except the Williams'? Answer-I did not. ABRAHAM STAHL. ALLEN WARD (BLACKFORD COUNTY) SWORN. General question in chief by Mr. MORGAN My name is Allen Ward; aged thirty-six years; reside in Blackford county; and by occupation a farmer. Question by Mr. MORGAN State what you know about resisting and mashing the draftbox at Hartford City ? Answer-I was present at the time the preparations for the draft were being made. When the draft-box was brought in the question arose as who should do the drafting, Brickley contending that he had the right to do it under the first order, and Provost Marshal Frash claiming that he should do it. Brickley was willing to go on with it under the first order. On the second order Frash claimed it. Brickley then refused to do it on them terms. After two or three of the tickets were put in John Daugherty kicked the box over; then Jesse Williams kicked it two or three times, and then gathered it and threw it up to the ceiling. After it fell down they jumped on it, and stamped it all to pieces. Then Jesse Williams drew a leg off the frame and attempted to strike Frash. when Christopher Clapper caught his arm. After the box was torn to pieces they commenced their hallooing. Question by Mr. MORGAN Who did you see engaged in stamping on the box? Answer-I saw Jesse Williams, Andrew Williams, John Daugherty, Thomas Daugherty, John Vanhorn, and Bluford Mills. Question by Mr. MORGAN Who did you see hallooing, cheering and stamping on the floor? Answer-Besides these I have named, I saw Leander Tarr, Daniel Watson, Huey Lyons, John Miller, Henry Snider, and John P. Garr. CROSS EXAMINATION. Question by Mr. FERRIS What is your politics? Answer-I am a Republican. Question by Mr. FERRIS How many men were there in the court house when the draftbox was mashed? Answer-About a hundred. Question by Mr. FERRIS Do you swear positively that Jesse Williams, Andrew Williams, John and Thomas Daugherty, John Vanhorne, and Bluford Mills, were each of them engaged in stamping the box and throwing the pieces around? Answer-Yes, sir. estion by Mr. FERRIS >w much was the box broken; into how many pieces? swer-The rim was broken into two pieces, and each head into the same number of pieces-I am positive. Question by Mr. FERRIS Who did you see throwing the pieces around? Question by Mr. FERRIS Name the person you know you saw stamping the box? + Answer-I saw Jess. Williams. He is the only one I can swear I saw stamping the box. Question by Mr. FERRIS If you stated that any person except Williams stamped on the. box or the pieces, was that true? Answer-To be certain, Jess. Williams was the only person I saw stamping the box or the pieces. Question by Mr. FERRIS Could you have heard it, had any one hurrahed for Jeff. Davis before the crowd left the court house? Answer-Yes, I could. Question by Mr. FERRIS Was there any hallooing for Jeff. Davis in the house? Question by Mr. FERRIS If you swore that any of the six men you named besides Williams was engaged in throwing around the pieces of the box, was that statement true? Answer-I saw none but Williams have hold of the box or any of the pieces. Question by Mr. FERRIS If you stated that Leander Tarr, Daniel Watson, Henry Snider, John P. Garr, and John Miller were there hallooing, was that statement true? Answer-I can not be positive that every one of them was. Was there any stamping done in the room that you know of except that done on the box? Answer-None that I could name. Question by Mr. FERRIS Now if you stated that any person except Williams was engaged in stamping on the floor, was that statement true? Answer-I saw John Doherty and Bluford Mills jumping up down on the floor. Question by Mr. FERRIS— and Do you state positively that any one present in the court house really hallooed but John Doherty and Bluford Mills? Answer-Not to be positive, I could not. ALLEN WARD. |