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ology after the article has been acted tion now under consideration as a very page 137, of the Manual on our desks, upon in committee of the whole, and important one. I think it would be dif- in the amendment to the Constitution reported back to the Convention. The ficult, without some such committee as adopted by the people providing for committee of the whole might direct that on arrangement and phraseology, the calling of a Convention to revise its chairman to report it back for ref- for this Convention to discharge its our Constitution, I find this sentence: erence to the committee on arrange- duties acceptably to the people, and "And in case a majority of the electors so ment and phraseology, which would to present an instrument of the sol- qualified, voting at such election, shall decide not necessarily require a standing rule. emn character we desire to present, L

in favor of a convention for such purpose, the emn Character we desire to present, Legislature, at the next session, shall provide When the articles have been finally that shall be perfect in all respects, by law for the election of such delegates to passed upon and had their third read- logically and grammatically written, in such convention." ing, they should be referred to some terse, pointed Saxon words, such as “Election of such delegates." What committee for arrangement in their have already received an authoritative delegates? No reference has previously proper order in the Constitution. This interpretation from the courts of this been made to delegates in the whole rule was reported for that purpose. State. The Supreme Court of this body of the Constitution. That The rule of the Convention of 1850 | State have already in a great number amendment certainly never passed read as follows:

of instances given a legal construc-through the hands of a committee on

tion, not only to the matter but to the "Every article when read a third time and

arrangement and phraseology. passed, shall be referred to the Committee on

words as well as the sentences of the On page 129 is another amendment, Arrangement and Phraseology." .. | present Constitution. Take the pas- as follows: The change we made in that rule, sages scattered through that Constitu-l. “The foregoing provisions shall in no case

tion which involve the doctrine of be construed to apply to the action of comand which met the unanimous sanc

missioners of the highways,” etc. tion of the committee, was to insert a what used to be called the Bill of

Now, there is no such office as “comprovision that this reference should be Rights; there is hardly a word of

missioner of the highways”-it is 6 for arrangement only." so that all ae-them that has not received a judicial

“ commissioner of highways." Not tion the committee could take upon it interpretation.

content with that blunder, they follow would be to arrange its proper place. There are many members of this

it up with the following:....

1 "-In the official discharge of their duties fore, I think should remain as it is. tent to elaborate with precision a good

as highway commissioners." If it is necessary to have a rule re. strong common sense idea; but in the

ut in the


The phrase, “ the official discharge quiring a reference of the article for pursuit of that idea they may sacrifice

idea they may sacrince of their duties," was enough, because revision of its phraseology, the rule phraseology, sometimes

logic, and they had no other than official duties to

logic, and th should require the reference for that sometimes grammar. The committee a

bee discharge as highway commissioners. purpose to be made perhaps when the on phraseology I think has been very

y! On page 120 is another legislative article has been reported to the Con- carefully selected by the President of

dent of amendment. In both section 2 and vention by the committee of the whole. this Convention. I think it furnishes

des section 3 will be found similar inacMr. BLACKMAN. I think there one evidence of his capacity to select

curacies. I do not desire to commentwill be found to be a difficulty whether good chairmen for the positions they

upon them particularly-I refer to we adopt the original rule or the sub-are respectively called upon to fill.

them to show the necessity of such a stitute offered by the gentleman from My colleague here upon my left, (Mr.

committee as this.. Cass; (Mr. VAN RIPER.) If the substi- | NINDE,) who is the chairman of the

On page 109, where the Constitution tute be adopted, requiring articles to committee on arrangement and phrase- |

asetreats of the power of the Governor be referred to the committee on ar- ology, long before he knew or imag

8 to remove from office, in the clause rerangement and phraseology before they ined he would be selected for that

au citing the officers that may be removed are read the third time, then they will position, playfully called my attention

by him, I find this language: still be open to amendment when re- to the proceedings of a learned body

that met at Jackson, presided over by ported back from that committee, and

"The Governor shall have power * * *

siueu Over Oy to remove from office * * * Superintenamended will require to be again re-l a learned gentleman who was formerly Ident of Public Instruction or members of the ferred.

: superintendent of public instruction. State Board of Education, or any other officer I think the rule of the Convention of The first resolution that learned body of the late, except Legislature and Judl

cial," etc. 1850 is preferable to either the rule passed, needed most decidedly to be

It is so printed in the body of the now under consideration, or to the referred to the committee on arrangesubstitute. Therefore. I would sug- ment and phraseology. I find by refer- Constitution, and sent out to the peogest that this rule be amended by strik-ence to that valuable and well-knowr

ence to that valuable and well known ple. To be perfectly fair, I could go ing out the words “for arrangement paper, the Jackson Citizen, that a reso

back to the Constitution of 1850, and only." The phraseology can be re- lution was passed containing this lan

point out blunders equally serious, vised without changing the sense of the guage—"the value of such institutions and

tutions that did pass through the revision of article. And to illustrate that, I would are well understood.” A singular

the committee on phraseology. This refer to the action of this committee of nominative followed by a plural verb,

shows the necessity of a careful, thoughtthe whole on rules 31, 32 and 33. in a resolution passed by a convention

ful committee, not to control the sense, Those rules have been changed and of School Superintendents. This is corrected very materially, but only in but a single instance of what work is close, careiul expressions, what this their phraseology. No other sense can sometimes made of phraseology.

Convention may desire to embody in be made of them now thans they were Turn to our own Constitution, which

the various articles of the Constitution. intended to bear when first introduced. has been several times amended by our

I trust the Convention will find It seems necessary, therefore, that some Legislature, and you will there find

means to have that done here. I apsuch duty as that should be performed evidence of the need of a committee

prehend there will be found no such in reference to the various articles of on arrangement and phraseology. I

delicacy in regard to measures brought the Constitution. . .:: will refer to some, few passages I have

forward, as was suggested by the genMr. NORRIS. I consider the ques- noted in a časual reading of it. On

tleman from Jackson, (Mr. PRINGLE,) the other day. In fact, I know there


is no such delicacy of feeling on the fore the final passage of any article it perferct form and couched in good old part of members here. We want the should be referred to the committee Saxon. language of the Constitution we may on arrangement and phraseology, does Mr. WALKER. I suppose I am as frame, so arranged that when we leave not require any special rule. If there anxious as the gentleman from Cass,.. here, we shall do so with the convic- is any doubt upon that point, a rule (Mr. VAN RIPER,) for a proper rule tion that we have placed before the may be adopted requiring the article upon this subject. I will read a form people of this State, a Constitution to be referred for a revision of its which, to me, appears to be better than perfect in form as well as in substance. phraseology. But after it has passed the substitute proposed:

Mr. CONGER. I suppose every through its three readings, and been “Every article after having passed the member is equally desirous that the made a part of the constitution, then committee of the whole, and before being put

on its final passage, shall be committed to work of our hands may be perfectly the committee on arrangement is to the Committee on Arrangement and Phrase. arranged. Now it seems to me that determine the place where it shall | ology, for their action on its phraseology." there is among members a difference of stand in that constitution. ill. Mr. P. D. WARNER. I perhaps understanding in regard to the mean-| Mr. MCCLELLAND. In previous may be permitted to repeat what has ing of the rule now under consideration. Conventions the mode of procedure been said by the chairman of the comFrom my reading of the rule, I under- was this: The article was passed, re-mittee on rules, (Mr. WILLIAMS.) This * stand that for all purposes of amending ferred to the committee on arrange- | 37th rule was adopted by the commit

the phraseology, if any such amend- ment and phraseology, which committee, not without consideration, but
ment may be deemed necessary, or even tee reported it back to the Convention. after full deliberation and without any
for purposes of supervision, if the phra- | And in the Convention of 1850, accord-dissent. It was the unanimous desire,
seology has not been carefully and ing to my recollection, amendments as expressed by the committee, that
properly examined, any article before were made to the articles after they the articles of the Constitution, after
its third reading even can be referred had been reported back to the Conven- | their third reading, should not be
to the committee on arrangement and tion from the committee on arrange- placed in the hands of any committee,
phraseology. It can be referred to one ment and phraseology, the committee who were licensed by the rules of the
committee or another, to whatever com- recommending. such amendments as | Convention to so change the phraseol-
mittee the Convention may see fit to they thought should be made. When ogy as to alter the meaning. There-
refer it, in order to perfect it. But the amendments of the committee had fore, the rule adopted by the Conven-
when it has passed its third reading, been disposed of, then any member of|tion of 1850 was changed by the inser-
been finally acted upon by the Conven-. the Convention had a right to offertion of the words, "for arrangement
tion and made a part of the Constitu- any amendment that only went to the only."
tion, there still remains the duty of as- phraseology of the article. Now, Il So far as relates to myself personally,
signing it to its proper place in the would suggest to the Convention, or to as a member of this Convention, I have
Constitution. After that duty has the chairman of the committee on rules, I no objection to a reference of the work
been performed in regard to all the ar- the propriety of adopting the amend of the Convention, at any time that it
ticles, then the question is to be taken ment proposed by the gentleman on may be desirable to refer it, to the
upon the Constitution as a whole. the other side, (Mr. BLACKMAN,) so that committee on arrangement and phra-
The object of this rule, then, I un- the rule will read:

seology, for the purpose of perfecting
derstand to be this: after each article
who this. after each articlel "Every article when read a third time and the language in which the article or

. Every article when read, has been perfected and finally adopted,

passed, shall be referred to the Committee on pued, Arrangement and Phraseology."

section may be expressed. I desire it is to be referred to this committee

And as there appears to be some

that every provision of the riew Constion arrangement and phraseology, not suspicion that that committee may in

tution we may frame may be expressed for the purpose of having its phraseterfere with the substance of the article,

in such language that no unfair advanology tampered with or changed, but although I myself would be perfectly vag

|tage could be taken of it, but that the merely to determine the place it shall satisfied with that rule, I would sug

rights of every individual in the State occupy when the Constitution as a gest this addition to the rule to obviate

shall be secured without any question. whole comes to be made up as a perfect, that objection."

Therefore I am not opposed to its reforderly and symmetrical instrument.

" After the adoption of any article of the

erence to the committee on praseology. I may be mistaken in my understand Constitution, and the time for reconsideration But I am opposed to its going to that ing of the rule. But from the reading has elapsed, no motion to amend shall be in committee for revision of phraseology,

Torder, wbich would change the principle or after it has been fully decided upon of it, it occured to me that it was in

vary the meaning of the whole article or any tended simply, to provide that after section, unless supported by a vole of two- and framed by thi

6 and framed by this Convention. I bethis Convention had passed upon and thirds of the whole Convention."...

lieve after this Convention has perfecadopted an entire article, it then should I think that would secure the Con-ted its work, has deliberately voted the be referred to the committee on ar- vention against any trick that might adoption of any measure, either in the rangement and phraseology for the be attempted to be played by this com- form of a section or of an article, then purpose of determining where in the mittee; but I do not apprehend that no committee should be authorized by Constitution it should be placed; not any would be attempted by it, for it is the rules of this Convention to make for the purpose of making any altera- of too high a tone and character to be such a change of its phraseology as * tion in its language, or even the ar- suspected of any such intention. may change its meaning. Therefore I *rangement of its sections. If that be I, myself, may be very much preju- am in favor of this rule 37 as reported. the object of the rule, then I think it is diced in favor of this rule, because it I shall not oppose the adoption of an- . a very proper one as it stands, and was a rule of the Convention of 1835, other rule by which the various artineeds no amendment. Perhaps the and the Convention of 1850. The older cles may be referred to the committee chairman of the committee, (Mr. Wil- a man grows I think the more attached on phraseology in order that they may. LIAMS,) who reported it, will state he becomes to that which he was ac- be put into proper and appropriate lanwhether that was the object of this rule. customed to in his younger days. But guage. But let that be done before it

•Mr: WILLIAMS. I think I have I merely make the suggestion now; it is finally passed upon by the Conven-
already stated that that is the only is of no consequence at all to me. All tion.
object of the rule. In order that be- I desire is to have the Constitution in As the gentleman from Washtenaw,


(Mr. NORRIS.) took occasion to refer to back by that committee, it should be order of proceeding in our Legislature, some of the action of the Legislature open to amendment in the Convention which has been referred to by the genin relation to amendments of the Con- so far only as its arrangement and man from Oakland (Mr. P. D. WARstitution, I would call his attention to phraseology are concerned, before NER.) So far as I have noticed, the the result of the action of the commit- being put on its final passage. It practice has been for bills to be ortee on phraseology of the Convention seems to me that we should arrive at dered to a third reading, without a of 1850. The fifteenth section of the the desired end more fully and per- motion to that effect being made by fifth article of the Constitution of this fectly by adopting that course, than by any one. And then the rule is that State is in these words:

referring the articles immediately a bill cannot be amended, except by a "No member of Congress, nor any person after coming from the committee of suspension of the rules, or by being holding office under the United States or this the whole, before amendments to them recommitted. Of course it is compe State, shall execute the office of Governor." Thorn

have been offered in the Convention, tent for the Convention, if they see fit, Mr. NORRIS. I anticipated some-l or the amendments of thie committee | after an article has gone to its third what my friend from Oakland, (Mr. P.

of the whole have been acted upon. I reading, to provide that it still may be D. WARNER,) by acknowledging that

therefore offer the following as a sub-amended in reference to its phrasewe did not claim that the Constituţion

stitute for the substitute of the gentle-ology. But it occurred to me that of 1850 was a perfect instrument.

man from Jackson, (Mr. PRINGLE:) while it may be proper, if we should I rise now, inasmuch as I think the

: "When an article has been read a third so choose to do, yet it would be à Convention are almost unanimously time, it shall, before being put upon its final course of proceeding so different from agreed that some rule ought to be de- | passage, be referred to the Committee on Ar what is the usage of our legislative vised in regard to this matter, to make rangement and Phraseology, and when re

ported back by that committee, the article bodies that it would be better to have a suggestion which, I think, will con

shall be open to amendment as to arrangement the reference immediately after the arciliate all our views. I move that the and phraseviogy only."

ticle has been reported from the comcommittee now rise, and ask leave to Mr. P. D. WARNER. I desire to mittee of the whole, and the report had sit again to-morrow. There will be sav simply this; the manner of pro- been acted upon by the Convention. other members here then, and we can ceeding in the Legislature of Michi-l I would have it so referred for anthen come to a proper conclusion on gany which I presume will be princi- other reason. The sections of the arthis matter, I have no doubt.

pally the manner of proceeding in ticle may not be arranged in their logiMr. PRINGLE. I wish to read to the this Convention, is somewhat differ- cal sequence and order, and the arConvention'a form of rule which Ilent, as the gentleman from Ingham, ranging them properly may evolve have drawn up, and which I think will|(Mr. LONGYEAR,) is well aware, from come idea necessary in order to combe a proper rule on this subject. It is the „manner of proceeding in the Con-plete the logical statement of it, and * as follows:

gress of the United States. There, as make the article a complete thing by "Every-article, after having passed the I understand, a bill is ordered to its itself. There should at least be a disCommittee of the Whole, shall be referred for third reading upon a particular day, cretion in the Convention, if not in arrangement and phraseology to the committee for that purpose and after having been land there it. remains perhaps for all the committee on arrangement and read a third lime and passed, shall be referred day, perhaps for a week; it is a separ- phraseology, to add to or take from, to the same committee for arrangement.only.”late stage in its progress to a final pas- in that condition of things. It should

If there is no objection I will offer sage. According to the manner of be, I think, in that middle ground, as that as a substitute for the rule re- proceedings in our House of Repre- in our House of Representatives, at ported by the committee on rules.. sentatives, if a bill is reported back the moment when bills are about being

Mr. VAV RIPER. I think the sub- from the committee of the whole, and ordered to a third reading, and when stitute read by the gentleman from the House act upon the amendments amendments are still in order. I beJackson, -(Mr. PRINGLE,) covers the reported from that committee, it goes lieve it is the practice of our House of whole ground. I therefore withdraw without any motion to the order of Representatives, when the amendments my substitute.

third reading; and the next day it reported from the committee of the Mr. NORRIS. I withdraw my mo- comes up on its passage..

J whole have been acted upon, to allow tion that the committee now rise. Now, according to the substitute other amendments to be offered; but

Mr. PRINGLE. I offer what I have offered by the gentleman from Jack- after a bill has been ordered to a third just read as a substitute for the rule son, (Mr. PRINGLE,) when an article reading amendments are not in order, reported by the committee. .: has been reported to the Convention except upon a suspension of the rules,

Mr. LONGYEAR. It seems to me by the committee of the whole, and or by unanimous consent. The artithat the articles should not be referred the amendments adopted by the com- cles which we may frame ought, I to the committee on arrangement and mittee have been acted upon by the think, to remain in that middle ground phraseology until a more advanced Convention, instead of its being placed long enough for their reference to the stage is reached than merely action upon the order of third reading, it is committee on arrangement and phraseupon them by the committee of the to be referred to the committee on ology. whole; they should be ordered to a arrangement and phraseology, to make Mr. MCCLELLAND. I desire to third reading or passed by the Con- its phraseology what it should be. make a single inquiry. In the Legis vention. Let them be referred to When, it is reported back from that lature of this State, when a bill comes the committee on, arrangement just committee, it will of course be put from the committee of the whole with before their final passage. If they upon its final passage. I only refer to amendments which are acted on by the are referred before they have their this to illustrate my idea of the differ- House, is it not then referred to the third reading, they will still be open ence between the mode of procedure committee on engrossment before its to amendment. My idea is that in this State, and the mode of proce- third reading? when an article has been read the dure-with which the gentleman from Mr. PRINGLE. My impression is

third time, and before being put Ingham, (Mr. LONGYEAR,) has been that the ordinary practice has been for... , on its final passage, it should be re- familiar in Washington.

the Speaker to say—“The bill will be ferred to the committee on arrange- Mr. PRINGLE. In drawing my engrossed for its third reading;" :: ment and phraseology. When reported substitute I had reference to the usual Mr. MCCLELLAND. Exactly.

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Mr. PRINGLE. Without, however, Accordingly, Mr. GEORGE V. N. LOTH- the petition of Tobias Miller and 50 going to a committee of engrossment ROP, of Wayne county, and Mr. PERRY others, on the same subject; which was to be engrossed.

H. ESTEE, of Isabella county, (Midland referred to the committee on intoxicaMr. McCLELLAND.The same District,) presented themselves, and ting liquors. . proceeding as in Congress...

subscribed to and took the oath of Mr. TURNER presented the peti. Mr. PRINGLE. My substitute was office administered by the President. tion of W. J. Mosely and 12 other framed upon the idea that the articles


citizens, of Shiawassee county, on the should remain for a little time in this

same subject; which was referred to middle ground. Of course if it is nec

Mr. TURNER asked and obtained

the committee on intoxicating liquors. essary to engross them they will go indefinite leave of absence for Mr. Gu

1. Mr. HARRIS presented the petithrough the hands of the engrossing LICK on account of indisposition. .

tion of L. Woodman, James McCorclerk. I think they should be referred

Mr. P. D. WARNER asked and ob

mic and others, legal voters of the na tained indefinite leave of absence for town of Avon. Oakland county on phraseology before being placed upon

Mr. KENNEY On account of indispostion.

postion; the same subject; which was referred the order of third reading, at which

obtained to the committee on intoxicating

| leave of absence for Mr. BARBER until liquors. time, as we all understand, they are beyond the power of amendment. : 4 Thursday next.

Mr. PARSONS presented the petiMr. BLACKMAN. It seems to me Mr. PRINGLE. . I desire to obtain

tion of T. C. Garner, R. B. Wyles, | leave of absence for myself for to-day James M. Goodell and 32 others, resithat the substitute of the gentleman from Jackson, (Mr. PRINGLE,) is someand to-morrow. In explanation of this dente.

| dents of Corunna, Shiawassee county, what defective. If it means by the request I will say that I have some on

on the same subject; which was referphrase “after it has passed the com

business connected with the term of red to

M 01 red to the committee on intoxicatips mittee of the whole," immediately af

court, and it is necessary that I should liquorg ter, then it will be before the amend be

I be absent from here to attend to it. Mr. MUSSEY presented the petition ments reported from the committee of

Leave was accordingly granted..

of Richard H. Rodgers and 41 other the whole have been acted upon by Mr; BLACKMAN asked and ob- citizens of St. Clair county, on the the Convention. It seems to me that

tained leave of absence for Mr. DuN

N- same subject.. the substitute is defective in that reat reCOMBE until to-morrow.

| Also, the petition of Joseph Mott, spect at least. I have no amendment


. John Huffman, 0. F. Macomber and to offer; I only make this suggestion. | Mr. FERRIS presented the peti- 45 others, of the village of Memphis,

Mr. NORRIS. I now renew my tion of Berry A. Harlan and 37 others, St. Clair county, on the same subject. motion that the committee rise, report of Kent county, praying that section Also, the petition of William P. progress, and ask leave to sit again. 47, of article 4, of the present Consti- Russell and 10 others, of the village of The motion was agreed to.

tution, relative to intoxicating liquors, Memphis, St. Clair County, on the The committee accordingly rose, and to be retaiaed in principle in the new same subject; which were severally rethe President having resumed the instrument.

ferred to the committee on intoxicating chair,

Also, the petition of A. B. Cheney liquors. Mr. BIRNEY reported that the com- and 20 others, of Kent county, upon Mr. BIRNEY presented the peti-. mittee of the whole, pursuant to the the same subject.

tion of M. S. Wells and 52 others, of order of the Convention, had had under Also, the petition of Joseph Blake Portsmouth, Bay county, on the same consideration the general order, being and 20 others, of Kent county, upon subject; which was referred to the the report of the committee on rules, the same subject.

committee on intoxicating liquors. had come to no resolution thereon, Also, the petition of Theodore G. Mr. ALDRICH presented the petiand had directed him to ask leave for Howe and 46 others, of Kent county, tion of Wm. Gates, Hulda H. Gates, the committee to sit again. upon the same subject.

Warren C. Kingsley, E. E. Kingsley Leave was accordingly granted, Also, the petition of L. F. Case and and 100 others, citizens of the town

And then, on motion of Mr. HOLT, 15 others, of Kent county, upon the ship of Mason, Cass cousty, praying the Convention, (at 25 minutes past same subject; which petitions were for equal suffrage for men and women; 5 o'clock p. m.) adjourned.

severally referred to the committee which was referred to the committee on intoxicating liquors.

on elections.. . Mr. LAMB presented the petition of Mr. DANIELS presented the petiFIFTH DAY.

i John W. Doy and 13 others, of Lapeer tion of George W. Kenny and 34 county, upon the same subject; which others, on the same subject.

was referred to the committee on Also, the petition of Horace Wixon The Convention met at 10 o'clock intoxicating liquors. .

and 53 others, on the same subject; A. M., and was called to order by the Mr. PRINGLÉ presented the pe- which were severally referred to the President.

tition of W. W. Landon and 39 oth- committee on elections. Prayer by the Rev. Mr. Banwell.

ers, legal voters of Parma, Jackson Mr. SHEARER presented the petiThe roll was called, and a quorum county, on the same subject.

tion of B. Durfee and 17 others, askof members answered to their names. Also, the petition of L. M. Jones ing that section 47, article 4, of the

ADDITIONAL MEMBERS. . and 60 others, of Brooklyn, Jackson present Constitution, be retained in Mr. MCCLELLAND. I have the county, on the same subject; which the new. pleasure to announce that Mr. LOTHROP were severally referred to the commit. Also, the petition of Wm. Walker is now present, and ready to take his tee on intoxicating liquors.

and 20 others, on the same subject. seat as a member of this Convention. Mr. HOWARD presented the peti-. Also, the petition of H. Higgins and I ask that the oath may be now admin- tion of Emanuel Bodmer and 30 oth- 24 others, on the same subject; which istered to him.

er legal voters of Michigan, on the were severally referred to the commit: Mr. BIRNEY. I make the same re- same subject; which was referred to tee on intoxicating liquors. quest in reference to Mr. ESTEE, who is the committee on intoxicating liquors. Mr. WOODHOUSE presented the now present.

Mr. F. C. WATKINS presented petition of John H. Foster and 43




others, of Dansville, Ingham coupty, that the resolution of the gentleman osition as thus amended was then on the same subject; which was re- from Saginaw, (Mr. SUTHERLAND,) did adopted." * ferred to the committee on intoxicating embrace the county clerks. But at Mr. P. D. WARNER. But it was liquors.

the time that substitute was offered, I not adopted. . Mr. P. D. WARNER presented the noticed that there was one class of Mr. LOVELL. It was understood. petition of Benjamin Brown, James D. officers who were omitted; and who to be adopted; and we have been actBateman, Capt. J. H. Woodman, Jas. are still omitted from the resolution ing on that understanding. The obB. Tuttle and 62 others, of Commerce, now before the Convention. I would jection raised by the gentleman from Oakland county, on the same subject; suggest to the gentleman from Wayne, Oakland is surely nothing more than which was referred to the committee (Mr. D. GOODWIN,) to so modify his a technical objection. I on intoxicating liquors.

resolution as to include all State offi- Mr. LEACH. I would ask whether DISTRIBUTION OF DEBATES AND PROCEED- cers. I think it is highly proper that the record shows the resolution to have INGS.

all of our Ştäte officers should be sup- been adopted. Mr D GOODWIN I offer the fol-plied with a copy of our journal of The PRESIDENT. The Chair will lowing resolution: proceedings and debates.

state that there was an error on his

Mr. D. GOODWIN. I accept the part, in not putting the question upon Resolved, That the State printer be instruc. ted to forward one copy of the daily proceed- suggestion of the gentleman from Ma-| the resolution as amended by the ings and debates of this Convention printed comb, (Mr. MUSSEY,) and modify my adoption of the substitute. It was his by him, to each of the Circuit Judges of the he resolution accordingly.

impression at the time that the substiSiate, not members of the Convention, and one copy to the United States District Judge, Mr. P. D. WARNER. Mr. Presi-| tute, on its adoption, stood in the place for the Eastern District of Michigan. dent, the inquiry started by the gen- of the original resolution. The Chair

Mr. LEACH. If 'I am not greatly tleman from Grand Traverse (Mr. supposes that the error can be cormistaken, the Convention has not yet LEACH) has not not yet been answered rected at the present time by the acmade provision for sending the pro-satisfactorily to my mind. That in- / tion of the Convention. . ceedings and debates to the papers of quiry was, whether any provision had Mr. P. D. WARNER. I suppose the State. I would ask for informa- been made by this Convention for the that it is competent for the Convention tion, if that has been done ?

publication of its debates. It appears at this stage to take any action which Mr. D. GOODWIN. On Friday last from the journal that the resolution they may deem proper on this subject. the gentleman from Saginaw, (Mr. I offered by the gentleman from Ingham Mr. MCCLELLAND. I presume, SUTHERLAND,) offered as a substitute (Mr. LONGYEAR) was proposed to be Mr. President, that the resolution, as for a resolution of the gentlemen from amended by a substitute offered by the amended by the adoption of the subIngham, (Mr. LONGYEAR,) the follow-gentleman from Saginaw, (Mr. SUTHER- stitute of the gentleman from Sagi

LAND.) That substitute, as subse- naw, would, under the circumstances, Resolved, That the State printer be instruct- quently amended, was adopted. · But, be considered as laid on the table; and ed to print the daily proceedings and debates of this Convention, and to furnish daily 1,000

sir, it does not appear to my mind that if action is now desired upon the sub

in it icon copies for the use of the members, and for- | by the adoption of that substitute theject in connection with the proposition ward one additional copy to each newspaper original resolution was adopted, Such of my colleague from Wayne, (Mr.

in county is not my understanding of the rules D. GOODWIN,) the proper course would clerk. It was amended so as to include

of parliamentary law. A substitute I be to move to take that resolution from the Governor of the State and the

understand to be simply in the nature the table, and let us act upon the

of an amendment to the origi- whole matter together.. judges of the Supreme Court, and then

"nal proposition. The adoption of Mr. P. D. WARNER. My imadopted. My resolution proposes to extend

the substitute, or the concurrence pression is that the resolution would

by this Convention in the substi- come up under the order of unfinished the provisions of that resolution to

Itute, did not adopt the original reso- business, if it should come up at all. the Judges of the Circuit Court, not

lution. According to my understand. The PRESIDENT. The question members of this Convention, and the United States District Judge for the

ing of parliamentary law, the original is now on the adoption of the resolu

I proposition has not yet been adopted. I tion offered by the gentleman from eastern district of Michigan. The Convention is well aware that the

| Having this understanding, I am led to Wayne, (Mr. D. GOODWIN.)

the conclusion that this Convention has Mr. D. GOODWIN. If it is the deUnited States District Judge for the

made no provision for the publication sire of the Convention to act now on western district of Michigan is a member of this Convention.

of the debates and proceedings of this the other resolution, I will withdraw Convention.

.. mine for the present, and offer it as an Mr. HENDERSON. I find that there are a great many members labor


amendment when the other shall come

The gentleman ing under the same impression that I Trom, that

| before the Convention. from Oakland (Mr. P. D. WARNER) is have in regard to this matter. A reso- usually right. He is right now in his PROGRESS OF COMMITTEE BUSINESS. lution providing for this same thing, un understanding of the parliamentary

Mr. INGALLS. I submit the foloriginally offered by the gentleman

law, but ne is not right n mis redung | lowing resolution: from Grand Traverse, (Mr. LEACH,) of the record. If he will read down a

Resolved, That the standing committees little further in the Journal, he will appointed by the President of the Convention was amerided so as to embrace county

be requested to report on the various matfind this clause: clerks. Some other amendments were

ters submitted to them, within 48 hours, if moved, but finally I believe the gen

"The substitute as amended was then within their power to do so.. tleman from Saginaw. (Mr. SUTHER- | adopted."

Mr. P. D. WARNER. The adoption red a substitute which did Mr. P. D. WARNER. But not the of this resolution would, as I conceive. not embrace the county clerks. I original proposition.

be detrimental to the faithful discharge think I am correct in my recollection. | Mr. LOVELL. I desire to suggest of the duties devolving upon the vari

Mr. MUSSEY. I think the gentle- whether it would not be proper to cor- ous committees. As regards many of man from Calhoun, (Mr. HENDERSON,) |rect the Journal in that respect, and these committees, it would be extremewill find by reference to the journal, insert the words, “The original prop-ly inconvenient, if not altogether im


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