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Mr. VAN VALKENBURGH asked feel disposed to yield in reference to of the State. We have made such arand obtained leave of absence for Mr. this matter. I do not, however, agree rangements that information can easily MCCONNELL until to-morrow.

with the gentleman from Monroe, (Mr. be obtained by the public prints of all Mr. T. G. SMITH asked and ob- MORTON,) that the resolution which has the proceedings of this Convention, tained leave of absence until to-mor- been adopted by the Convention is and spread before the people of the row for Messrs. HOWARD, TURNER and contrary to the spirit of the Constitu- State. The resolution cannot be said HUSTON.

tion of this State, however opposed it to be a matter of public necessity, for Mr. BLACKMAN asked and obtain- may appear to be to the letter of the the documents that will be sent by ed leave of absence until to-morrow

members of this Convention will go to for Mr. DUNCOMBE.

1 At the time that Constitution was very few people throughout the State. PETITIONS-LIQUOR TRAFFIC.

framed, postage was not required to I believe but a thousand copies are

be prepaid, as is now the case; and printed of the journal; some of them Mr. CONGER presented the peti

ONGER presented the peti- consequently the Convention incorpo- will be used here, and the remainder tion of F. C. Langer, and of 243 other

rated the section which gives to the would supply scarcely a hundredth citizens of Marine city, St. Clair coun

Legislature the power to make arange- part of the voters of the State. In ty, praying for a license system and ment with reference

ment with reference to the payment of fact, the sending of documents by the the repeal of the prohibitory clause in

postage on the mailable matter that members of this Convention is more the Constitution; which was referred may be received by its members. The in the nature of a compliment to their to the committee on intoxicating object of that section is that members constituents than anything else; thereliquors.

of the Legislature shall not be sub- fore it would seem to be proper that is Mr. PRINGLE presented the peti-liected to expense for postage on mat- the members should pay their own tion of John S. Osborne, Rev. John ters in which they really have no in- postage. Dunham, R. R. Singlet, C. Angevine

terest, but on the contrary the parties And the resolution would seem to and thirty others, legal voters of the

who are interested are their constitu- be in conflict with the spirit of the township of Rives, Jackson county, lents.

ents. Therefore, I do not think the Constitution.
Therefore I do not think the Constitution. The Legi

The Legislature could praying that sec. 4%, Art. 4, of the resolution which has been adopted is not pass a law of this kind without a present Constitution be, in principle at

contrary to the spirit of the Constitu- clear infraction of the Constitution, for least, retained in the new instrument;/ tion, and some of our lawyers here seem lit is prohibited from providing for the which was referred to the committee to entertain the same opinion. Now, I payment by the State of the poston intoxicating liquors.

I am not particular whether the reso-age on the matter mailed by its memPOSTAGE OF MEMBERS.

lution is rescinded or not; but if it is bers. And does this body possess Mr. HENDERSON offered the fol

to remain in operation I think its effect such a right? It may be said that lowing resolution:

should be restricted at least to the ex- the letter of the Constitution does not Resolved. That the word " document,” in tenu indicated by the resolution I nav

tent indicated by the resolution I have reach this Convention. But does not the resolution passed by this Convention on offered.

the spirit of it apply to us? If the 17th instant, relative to postage, shall be Mr. STOUGHTON. I hope the this resolution is continued in force, construed to mean the journals and debates

substitute will prevail. It seems to a debt will be created against the of this Convention, and that no other mail matter shall be deemed within the scope of me that its adoption is at least a mat- State. And, I take it, that cannot the resolution.

ter of policy and expediency. We properly be done, without some posMr. MORTON. I offer the follow- know very well that the public, and itive law, or by the operation of some ing as a substitute for the resolution: with some propriety, too, look with a provision of law. That this Conven

Resolved, That the resolution heretofore great deal of prejudice upon the frank- tion has the right to pass any law, adopted, requiring the postmaster of the linen

being privilege; and the resolution it is I do not think will for a moment be Convention to pay the postage on all docu

be and proposed to rescind can be construed contended. It has no legislative power men the same is hereby rescinded.

as nothing more or less than that. whatever. How then can we rightfully I think we shall run beyond the ap- If there was no other reason for its create any indebtedness against the propriation of $80,000 made by the repeal, I think it should be repealed State? We may do so in the proper Legislature, unless we restrict rather for the reason that it will be establish- discharge of the duties for which we than extend our expenditures. As I ing a precedent here that may per- are called together, by incurring the understand, the Convention of 1850 ran haps hereafter be attended with evil necessary expenses that flow from up for this purpose, during the first consequences. That provision of the the sitting of the Convention itself. eight or ten days of the session, a bill Constitution relating to the subject of But it seems to me that this Convenof some $700, and then found it nec- postage upon mailable matter, will. tion cannot depart from the strict line essary to put a stop to the whole sys-probably come up for consideration by of its duties, and create an indebtedtem. I believe that resolution is con- this Convention; and if we allow this ness against the State for something -trary to the spirit of the section of the resolution to continue in force as it which is not absolutely necessary for Constitution relating to postage. That now stands upon our records, and per- the Convention, and not strictly within section may not perhaps apply in terms mit members of this body virtually to the scope of its duties and powers. to this Convention; but it does to the frank all their mailable matter, we can-1 And then, how shall the indebtedLegislature which gave us power to not with a good grace refuse the same ness be paid ? Suppose the postmaster act. I think that, under all the cir- privilege to members of the Legislature. of the Convention obtains these postcumstances; the resolution should be Besides, it appears to me that there age stamps from the post office here; .. rescinded.

is no positive necessity for such a reso- can the postmaster of the city go to : Mr. HENDERSON. I shall vote for lution. We have provided for report the State Treasurer and draw the the substitute, and I should myself ers to this Convention, and for the pub- money for them, or to the State Audihave offered a resolution embodying lication of our journal and debates. tor and get the order for the money? the same sentiment, but for a feeling of We have also provided that those jour-At the best, I think there is an uncerdelicacy on my part on account of nals and debates shall be sent to all tainty about the matter. I think the opinions I have heard expressed by State officers, to the Judges of the safest course for us to pursue, is to relegal men here, to whose judgment I Supreme Court, and to the newspapers scind this resolution, and leave the

matter to stand with regard to this! Resolved, That if they are so constitution- 17. Shall the Board of Regents be appointConvention the same as with the legal by taking so much selids that they are not in such Board consist of nine members, three

hat ally formed, or by education and habit that ive or elective, and would it be well to have islature.

the habit of partaking of, that so many as are elected at a time, and no elector to vote for Mr. ALEXANDER. · When this res- alarmed at the quantity of the dose, from an more than two ?' olution was adopted by the Conven-api

apprehension that their constitutions could! 18. As to prohibition or license of the sale not endure it,

of ardent spirits—is any more stringent protion, I thought as I think now, that

Mr. STOUGHTON. I rise to a vision needed ? Shall this question be sub) perhaps it was unconstitutional; or

mitted as a separate clause to the popular question of order; that the paper

vote? that at least it was unwise to establish

' which is being read is disrespectful to 19. Shall the amended Constitution be suba precedent of the kind. I hope, this Convention.

milted at a special election, or at the spring therefore, that the substitute of the

election of 1868 ? .

The PRESIDENT. At any rate, it! 20. Shall the Governor and the State office gentleman from Monroe.(Mr. MORTON)

? may be held that the motion to recon- cers have a seat in either House, with a right will be adopted. I have not taken ad

sider is not now in order. Under the of debating and proposing any measures vantage of the passage of the resolurules now governing the action of this

they may think expedient ? tion, but have paid my own postage Convention, a motion to reconsider

I offer this resolution with a view of since that time, the same as I did must be made by a member who voted

provoking some expression of the pubx : before.

lic opinion of this State upon the variMr. CONGER. At the time the reswith the majority, on the day the orig

ous questions suggested in this resoluginal vote was taken, or on the sucolution under discussion was adopted

tion. It is now nearly seven weeks ceeding day. The Chair, therefore, there was a full Convention, while to

since we were elected delegates to this rules that this motion cannot now be day there are absent probably some entertained.

honorable body, yet the press of the twenty or more members who were

entire State, with perhaps one or two then present. Out of courtesy to them VOTES ON AMENDMENTS TO PRESENT CON

exceptions, has been as silent as the it may be well to let this subject go


grave upon any of the various quesw after they shall Mr. MCCLELLAND offered the fol- tions that are likely to come before have returned. I will not make a mollowing resolution, which was adopted: this body. tion to that effect, but make the sug- Resolved, That the Secretary of State bel. Now we are delegates here to repregestion to the mover of the resolution requested to report to this Convention, the sent the will and

sent the will and wishes of our conUn number of votes cast for and against each now pending.

amendment to the present Constitution, and stituents, and we desire to know what Mr HENDERSON. I move that the highest number of votes cast otherwise at that will is. For one, representing in

such election, when such amendment was part one of the largest counties in the the substitute be laid on the table.

passed upon by the electors of the State. The PRESIDENT. That motion, if

State, I do not myself know the wishes

VIEWS OF THE STATE PRESS, ETC. . agreed to, will carry the resolution to

of but a small minority of my con. the table also.

. Mr. NORRIS. I offer the following stituents upon any one question I have The question was taken, and upon a resolution:

suggested in my resolution. I do not division, ayes 41, noes 30; the resolu- Resolved, That the editors of the daily and suppose that all the wisdom of the te were laid upon the weekly press of this state, and such citizens State is represented on the floor of

as have access to a local paper, and as may this convention table.

y this Convention.

Tn desire so to do, are hereby invited by this Con- |

In fact, we have


vention to present their views as to the rather high republican authority for

changes they deem essential or expedient, in saying that we are rather ancient, crysMr. P. D. WARNER offered the fol- the present Constitution.

talized fossils, rather aged specimens lowing resolution, which was adopted:

del Among other matters they are invited to a Vhich was adopued: | discussion of the following propositions: :lof worn out men. (Laughter.) Resolved. That the use of Representative 1. Shall the Seat of Government be/ Whether that be so or not, we cerHall, for this evening, be tendered to Rev. J. changed?

tainly are not too old to learn, even Russell, for the purpose of speaking upon the 2. Shall the numbers of the Senators and ! subject of Temperance.

Representatives be increased ? Sball they be from the mouths of babes and suck

elected by single districts ? Shall a moiety lings, as it were. We are not too old POLICY OF ACTION.

of the Senate be elected at every alternate to desire to know what is the will of

election ? Mr. BURTCH. I send a proposi- | 3. Shall there be annual sessions of the our c

wal sessions of the our constituents. And, for one, I detion to the Secretary's desk. Legislature ?

sire that at least some of the editors The Secretary proceeded to read as The Secretary proceeded to read al 4. Shall the veto power be restrained ? 4.

who have criticised our ability and 15. The compensation of members of the follows: Legislature.

appearance so freely, shall enlighten A motion to reconsider the vote, the 6. Shall the system of the New York Court us as to what are our duties. It is following preamble and resolution of Appeals be adopted ?

possible that from the tripod erected | 7. Shall County Courts with limited civil were indefinitely postponed: and full Probate jurisdiction be created ?

under the benign influence of our Whereas. It hath pleased Almighty God, I 8. Shall the powers and duties of Circuit | State institutions may come informaand the good people of the State of Michigan, Court Commissioners be conferred upon these tion which will be of great benefit to that this Convention should assemble for the county judges, if created ?

us. At any rate, the adoption of my purpose of erecting anew the temple of lib. 1. 9. Shall the Judiciary be elective or appoint erty. that instice should be the chief corner-ive, and what shall be their term of office? resolution may provoke discussion: stone, that it should be ornamented with lib- 1 10. What disposition shall be made of the and while it will commit us to no par. erty, equality and humanity;

Suffrage question--as to colored persons, ticular line of action, it may elicit some Therefore be it resolved by the members of minors and females ? this Convention, That we will be governed bŵ 11. Shall the Auditor General's office be information which will be of benefit to no selfish, party or partisan influence what- abolished, and its duties conferred on County the Convention. ever, and that the several committees which | Treasurers ?.

Mr. FARMER. I would enquire if shall be selected, shall act in accordance with l 12. Shall the duties of Land Commissioner

the gentleman from Washtenaw. (Mr. the foregoing preamble and this resolution.

be entrusted to the State Treasurer ?

13. How liberal shall be the salaries of the NORRIS) proposes that this Convention The following supplement to the State, executive and judicial offices ?

shall adjourn until they shall have been foregoing preamble and resolution is! 14. Shall the Board of Supervisors be replaced by County Commissioners ? :

fully enlightened upon the subjects he offered:

15. Shall County Clerks be appointed by has mentioned by the people and the Whereas, The foregoing preamble and res- the District Judges ? olution seems to be distasteful and not con-| 16. Shall the present Constitution be

press? If he does, then I apprehend we • genial to the constitution, education and amended as to banks and banking exemp-Debter aujour,

better adjourn over for at least a twelvehabits of a few; therefore, be it tions ?

month, in order to allow a full discus

sion. If we are to have the members Washtenaw, (Mr. NORRIS,) and as is formed. The discussion has not been educated in these respects, I do not patent to all of us, the subjects most going on for months; the people have suppose that the press are more en- likely to come under discussion here not expressed their will upon the many lightened than the delegates who in have not been very much considered subjects which will be brought before this hall represent the people. Enter-by the people of this State. The us. taining that view of the subject, I am changes which are likely to be made If the recess is taken as proposed in opposed to the passage of the resolu- | are indicated, perhaps, to each mem- the resolution I have offered, then tion.

ber, more or less, in certain crude ideas these committees taking the matters - Mr. VAN VALKENBURGH. I hope that he may have upon the subject. referred to them in their particular this resolution will not be adopted. I And I think I will not be far amiss if charge, considering them for weeks or apprehend that the object of this Con- I say that of the hundred men elected months, as the case may be, can then vention is to decide these very ques- to this Convention, very few, perhaps come together here prepared to repretions. For one I should be very un- not three, perhaps not one, (I certainly sent the best ideas of the State, and willing to go about the State and ask do not know that one,) will say that the most mature judgment which they information of editors in regard to the upon any of the subjects he has be- may be capable of giving to these matquestions involved. Whatever they stowed that mature deliberation and ters. may say about fossil members here, I consideration which a subject deserves, | Great constitutions, constitutions think we can act for ourselves upon before an article or even a section which shall be more perfect than any these subjects, without consulting the should take its place in the Constitu- which have preceded it, are never maeditors. I hope this resolution will tion.

tured in a day. It took not only the not be adopted.

Members of this body have been seven years of our revolutionary war, Mr. NORRIS. I have merely made selected from private life; they have but the seven years that succeeded that the suggestion. The discussion is not been taken from different avocations war, to develop and bring into being entrusted entirely to editors; but com- in life, which avocations have not here- the Constitution of the United States. munications are requested from all cit- tofore been the making of Constitu- There were then fourteen years of izens who have access to the local press. tions; and in no large part the making anxious travail in search of those prinIn reply to the suggestion of the gen- or unmaking of laws. We come here ciples which lie at the foundation of tleman from Berrien, (Mr. FARMER,) from our different avocations, with our structure of government. There that we may have to adjourn in order some general knowledge of the various were fourteen years of anxious effort to get at the accumulated wisdom of subjects which are embraced in the on the part of the patriots who fought the State, I would say that it is very Constitution. But we have no especial, and won the battle for our liberties to possible that after the Convention particular knowledge upon those sub-determine and fix the organic law; shall have made some little progress in jects, such as we expect our commit- and they were able to do it only after laying out the business of the Conven- tees to be able to obtain by their in- much and long discussion. And so it tion, we may take a short recess for vestigation when they shall have been has been with the various State Conthe purpose of going home and con- appointed, and to whom representa- stitutions which mark the progress of sulting our constituents. But whether tion upon the various subjects referred our institutions. we do that or not, certainly the cour- to them should be addressed.

Now, if we are to improve upon tesy of inviting a general discussion We shall have from 20 to 30 commit- what has gone before us; if we are to on the part of our constituents will do tees, consisting of from five to thirteen improve upon what has been done in no great harm. The Convention will members each, who will have charge of other States as well as in our own, we not be committed to any particular the various subjects embraced in the must get the mature, deliberate thought view, and a large amount of light might Constitution, and whose duty it shall of our people, the mature, deliberate be thrown into this body by the adop-be to canvass them thoroughly. It thought of the men who are in this tion of this resolution, which would will be their business also to receive Convention. That I fear will hardly inform a great many of us on points suggestions from all the people of the be arrived at in thirty or even sixty upon which we are now more or less State who may desire to have their days of this session. uninformed.

ideas find a place in the Constitution. If there be other gentlemen who deThe question was taken upon the The very numerous questions which sire to discuss this resolution, I will resolution, and upon a division, ayes were embraced under some twenty hear them very cheerfully. Otherwise, 20, noes 57, it was not adopted. different heads in the resolution of the I will make the motion to lay my own RECESS OF THE CONVENTION.

gentleman from Washtenaw (Mr. Nor- resolution upon the table, with the

RIS) show the very numerous matters view of calling it up on some future Mr. PRINGLE. I offer the follow

that are to be canvassed before satis-day. ing resolution:

factory conclusions can be arrived at Mr. LONGYEAR. I wish to state, Resolved, That when this Convention shall even by ourselves. As that gentleman for the consideration of the Convenadjourn on Friday, the 24th day of May, in- says, we are working for the people of tion, just a few plain, practical thoughts; stant, it be until the first Wednesday of December next, at 11 o'clock in the forenoon,

the State; we are to endeavor to em- but I will not take up the time of the

he Deate, we are bo endeavor to ein- buc I was bou wake up at this place; and that the several standing body the views of the people, rather Convention by any elaborate remarks committees be at liberty to meet at such times than our own, in the Constitution. We upon them. and places as they may agree upon during the recess, but not to charge the State with more are lo enuddvor 10 €

are to endeavor to embody whatever The first question that suggests itself than ten days' services of any member on there is of public sentiment upon this upon the consideration of this resoluany committee, oť which he shall be a mem-l or that question. Of course we are tion is this: What is to be gained by ber.

acting as independent men, represent- an adjournment now? It has been I have offered this resolution in good ing our own ideas, at the same time I some seven or eight weeks since the faith, but rather as a suggestion than that we represent our constituents. Il election of members to this Convenas a resolution upon which I desire have no doubt we will do this earn- tion. It has been more than a year action to be taken this morning. As estly, faithfully, candidly, and with the since the subject of this Convention has been said in reference to another view of doing whatever may be best. has been agitated. The Legislature resolution by the gentlemen from But we are, to a great extent, unin-1 of 1866 submitted the question to the


people, and they voted in favor of a Convention to recommend to the sire; and following out the line of convention for the revision of the Con- people such changes only as the expe- thought suggested by the remarks of stitution, so that this subject has been rience of the past would seem to indi- the gentleman from Lenawee, (Mr. before the people for more than a year; cate to be necessary and wise, without BILLS,) and the gentleman from Alleand if the details of the new Consti- entirely destroying the old Constitu- gan, (Mr. WILLIAMS, I would ask if tution have not been discussed in that tion. And if we do that, do our work we know in what particulars our conlength of time, will they be discussed promptly and well, and send it to the stituents desire the present Constitubetween this time and December next? people for their action, my conviction tion to be amended ? It is true we What reason have we to suppose that is they will be best pleased with us. can all make general statements-we that discussion will take place? None Mr. WILLIAMS. I desire to ex- can say that they desire but few that I can see.

press my approbation of the remarks amendments, and want no radical When this Convention shall have made by the member who has just changes. But we get no information proceeded so far as to obtain reports taken his seat. I do not apprehend from such general statements that will from these various committees, cover- that any particular advantage to the enable this body to arrive at a concluing the entire ground of proposed action of this Convention will result sion as to what is desired by the people. action, so that some of the details may from an adjournment until December It is possible that in calling this be thrown out to the people, so that next, as proposed by the resolution of Convention the people of Michigan the line of procedure, the line of action the gentleman from Jackson, (Mr. had in view but one single change in proposed to be adopted by this Con- PRINGLE.)

' the Constitution. It is just possiblevention, shall be developed to the peo-l. As has been stated by the gentle- and the silence with which the quesple, then there will be something for man from Inghan, (Mr. LONGYEAR,) this tion has been treated may be regarded discussion, and then perhaps such a subject of the revision of the Consti- as proof that the only amendment resolution might come with a great tution has been before the people for desired is in relation to the question deal of force; especially if there should some years. The Legislature in 1861, of suffrage. If that be so, then let us be a great deal of difference of opinion submitted to the people an amend- discharge that duty and go home. If upon the main vital parts of the funda- ment to the Constitution, which was other and radical changes are desired, mental law. But until then, it seems ratified by the people, providing for then I for one desire to make them in to me that there is nothing to call out the submission to the people in 1866, obedience to the will of the largest discussion any more than there has of the question of calling a Conven- portion of the people of the State of been during the last year and a half, tion for the revision of the Constitu- Michigan, when that will can be ascerduring which time these subjects have tion, and this Convention has been tained; and there can be no better way been before the people just as particu- called in accordance with the action to ascertain that will than by evoking larly as they are now.

of the people upon that subject. If discussion. I care nothing about the Now, it seems to me that if such a during that time we have not learned adoption of my own resolution. The course as is proposed by this resolu- anything about the objects the people object will be accomplished by merely tion is to be followed at all, then we had in view in sending us here, I ap- laying before the people the various the representatives of the people should prehend that between now and De- questions which are agitating the first propose our line of action; and cember next, it will be very difficult minds of the members of this Conventhen if it is thought that we should for us to learn what they desire. tion. Each question which I incorpowait for a full expression of the views I believe, with the gentleman from rated in my resolution I have heard of the people, we can adjourn for a Lenawee, (Mr. BILLS,) that no very mooted by members in the three days few days or a few weeks. But I think radical changes in the Constitution are I have been here. Now, if we are to nothing can be gained by an adjourn- required by the people; they want us fully represent the views of our conment now.

simply to so modify the present Con- stituents, ought we not to have from Mr. BILLS. It seems to me that stitution that it will conform to the some source some information conthe remarks by which our attention present spirit and necessities of the cerning their wishes in relation to has been called to the fact that the age, in such respects as I apprehend these matters? purposes of this Convention have been are fully understood by members of I concur in the suggestion of the so long before the people and so little this Convention. The manner or gentleman from Ingham, (Mr. LONGdiscussion has been elicited, are very method in which such amendment and YEAR,) that it would be better for this pertinent to this question. Why is it revision should be made, may not per- Convention to go on with its work, rethat so little discussion has been had haps be so well understood. It is for fer these various subjects to their apin our State in regard to the changes that purpose that we have met here to propriate committees, evoke some rewhich are desirable in our Constitu- consult, and from such consultation as ports so as to give the people some tion? I take it that it is because the to the 'best mode of procedure, we topics for discussion, and then take a people of the State do not desire very can determine what particular line of recess. But I am clearly of the radical changes to be made in the action to pursue.

opinion that before we make such an Constitution. Those who sent us here I hope, therefore, this resolution will instrument as we propose to submit will be best pleased with our work if not pass. It certainly is premature to the people, with such radical feawe make but few radical changes in now; and it seems to me that it will tures in it as I am certain we will put the Constitution.

be unnecessary at any time, unless our in it when we get to work at it, we Some seem to have the impression committees report that they are unable ought to go home and ascertain the that we are to frame an entirely new to discharge their duties with the in- wishes of our constituents in regard Constitution; that we must not only formation we now possess.

to it. tear in pieces from end to end our Mr. NORRIS. The Convention will Mr. FERRIS. I do not wish to take present Constitution of the State, but readily believe that I concur in the re- up the time of the Convention in diswe must make an entirely new Con- marks of the gentleman from Jackson, cussing this question at any length; stitution. Now I have not so under-(Mr. PRINGLE,) with regard to the but I wish simply to throw out a few stood our duty here. I have sup- question of whether we are fully in- suggestions. I believe with all those posed that it was the duty of this formed of what our constituents de- gentlemen upon this question, it is im

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portant that we should know the will (Mr. NORRIS,) that no one here has yet for when we come to return here in and desire of our constituents; but I been able to say what those changes December next to resume our labors, would suggest to them that if we pro- should be, or what his constituents we would find that we had made but ceed directly on with the business of may desire, it may be said that we little real advancement in our underthis Convention, we shall be able to find have not yet reached that stage of our standing of what changes in our presin the daily préss, from day to day, proceedings; we have not yet got into ent Constitution are really necessary. just that sort of information from our complete working order. After the There can be but little concert of acconstituents which those gentlemen appointment of our various commit- tion between our committees during seem so much to desire. I think we tees, propositions in regard to amend the recess proposed, for the members shall in that way get all the informa- ments will be presented and referred of the committees will be at their tion which we may need, as we live to them; and then, and not till then, homes in different parts of the State. now in the day of railroads, telegraphs, can we understand what ideas may be And before effecting anything permaand a daily press, and yet be able to prevalent in the minds of members. nent, they must come together in this continue on in our work.

I hope therefore this resolution will hall and resume their labors. For The people have sent us here to do not pass. I believe we can go on this reason I hope the resolution will the work of revising the Constitution. steadily until our work shall be com- not prevail.

Mr. STOUGHTON. The resolua grand committee for that purpose. Mr. RAFTER. I am unable to see tion now before the Convention is an When we shall have concluded our the advantage to be derived from the important one, at all events one which labors, and have made a report to them delay incident to the adoption of the demands our careful consideration. If in the shape of a complete instrument, resolution of the gentleman from Jack- it shall be adopted, it will have a very they then are to pass upon our work. son, (MR. PRINGLE.) It is true, we material influence upon our deliberaand approve or reject it. I do not ought to represent our constituents; it tions. Whether it would have any inthink, when the people of this State is true we ought to know their feelings fluence upon the Constitution which sent us to this Convention, they inten- and wishes. But I, for one, am unable would finally be adopted is a question ded that we should come here for a few to see how we shall be able to get at we cannot now decide. days or a few weeks, and then adjourn the wishes of our constituents any bet- In the first place, the adoption of the our work for half a year. I doubt ter by adjourning, than by continuing resolution would seem to preclude one whether they would approve any such in session. We can just as readily get subject upon which this Convention action on our part.

an expression of their opinion from would otherwise have to pass; in that Something has been said in regard day to day, as has been already re- respect it would have some effect. It to the silence of the press, since the marked, by remaining here, as by ad- has been supposed by the public, election of the members of this Con-journing and going home. We have whether that impression prevails in vention, upon the topics which will come here from different localities, this Convention or not, that this Concome before us for discussion. Some leaving our different vocations; if we vention would frame a Constitution of the public journals have given us as adjourn on the 24th, as proposed by during the coming summer, and suba reason for their silence, that they do the resolutien, we will return to our mit it to the people at a special elecnot wish to forestall public opinion, homes and resume our different voca- tion in the fall. The adoption of this nor to bind, as it were, the hands of tions, which have been laid aside for resolution would preclude that idea, this Convention; that they desired to the time being. Will we then come in and postpone the action of the people leave it free when it met to devise such contact with a majority or even a re- on this new Constitution until next amendments and such changes as they spectable minority of our constituents? year. In this way, this resolution may in their wisdom deem necessary. I apprehend not; and the result will be would have two effects, each of which and proper from the experience of the that in the meantime the only expres- should be determined by the separate past. And I doubt very much sion of opinion we will get, will come action of this Convention. whether the press will change its from the editorial corps of the State; There is another thing to which I views and its course of action in re- and we can get that as well by remain- would call the attention of this congard to that matter.

ing here and going on with our labors. vention. The people have chosen this The gentleman from Jackson, (Mr. Again, as has already been re- Convention to come here and perform PRINGLE,) has spoken very eloquently marked, the people of this State, even this work, and it seems to me that unof the time spent previous to the the editorial corps of the State, are less some very good reasons can be adoption of the United States Consti- waiting the action of this Convention given for a contrary course, we ought tution, in developing the ideas in that in order to get someting upon which to address ourselves to the work asinstrument. He said that there were to base an expression of their opinions. signed to us by our constituents, and fourteen years of travail before the In view of these facts, I believe it is perform it with as little delay as posConvention was called. Now, if I rec- better that this Convention should con- sible. I know there is a necessity for ollect history aright, that Convention, tinue its labors here, for we will get full deliberation in all important after it was born as the result of this just as full, or at least just as general works. The advocate sometimes takes long travail, did not go back to the an expression of public opinion and much time in preparing his case; the people and ask for a new birth; but sentiment if we remain here, as we artisan takes weeks and months, perthey went forward steadily in the ac- would by adjourning and going home. haps, to complete the labor upon some complishment of the object for which . And there is another view to be work of his hands; and we must take they had assembled.

taken of this subject. There are vari- all needful time for the performance Now, in regard to the remarks of ous committees to be appointed. The of the important work devolved upon the gentleman over the way, (Mr. revised constitution is to be the work us. But the people have selected the BILLS,) that we were sent here to make of the combined wisdom of this Con- delegates here assembled; they have only some few changes in the existing vention. I think there will be little designated the place and time for our Constitution, and those changes not done towards performing that work if meeting, and the work they desire us radical ones; and in regard to the re- the members of the Convention sepa- to do; and unless something further marks of my friend from Washtenaw, rate and go to their several homes; is shown than what has been presented

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