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lions upon them to repair their dilapidated on all property passing from or through such ks and structures? Is it just to attempt to lateral canal, except so far as any of said laterals. ton upon my constituents, upon the people of or parts thereof may be necessary as feeders of 3 State, for all time, what amounts, when strip water to the canals named in the seventh sec. I of specirl pleadings, to an annual tax for the tion of this article." Tetit of the persons who live upon the line of Adopt this section, and you make it the interse laterals? Is it just to compel us to pay a est of the people of those localities to foster their tion of the cost of transportation to market of canals, to watch over them and choke off tho fry bushel of grain, or stick of lumber produced vampires who for years appear to have boen suck. their vicinity—to pay, in fact, a bounty on their ing out their life-blood, and robbing the public of duction? Who pays for the transportation to their just dues. If then they cannot sustain them rket of the productions of the counties on the selves, we had better, in my humble judgme! by iks of the Hudson or of the farmers of Long even go beyond what is proposed in this sectior, hud? Does, or has, the State ever paid a cent and authorize the Legislature to dispose of them

this purpose ? No, sir, the State does not nor in any manner they may deem expedient, to givo ver has paid; the producers pay it out of their them, if proper in their judgment, to the counties n pockets ; they have never had the presump in which they are located, and let them have the n, that I am aware of, even to ask the State to benefit of the $13,528,000 they have cost, and 1. There may have been some ground for make the most out of them they can. This ordiog temporary relief, of doling out charity to proposition I havo no doubt will be met with tho se portions of the State in their infancy, but cry, of which I think I have seen symptoms, that enty-one years and upward bave elapsed since unless you carry along these laterals, unless you e system has been in operation, tiine has beeu coutinue this bounty and temporary relief forever, reu them to pass their minority, they have be your Constitution will be defeated, for every man me strong and of age, and, in my judgment, it is on the lines of these laterals will vote against it. out time that they sustain theinselves without Now, sir, this is the same spirit, the same evil continuance of this temporary relief I believe seuii which all along has succeeded, by assuming ey have the ability and can do it without a threatening attitude, in bleeding the other poreally distressing ihemselves, but, like all other cious of the State, aud making them tributaries to nsioners, they will hold ou to their pittance as its power. I think the time has arrived to exorng as possible. What prudent individual (the cise this spirit, to destroy his power, to defy him, ate may be likened to an individual) owning and to trust that the good sense of the mass of • rm, a portion of which required iriigation to the people of this State will induce them ake it productive, after expending a large sum to rise in their majesty and mote out equal justico

the digging of ditches to introduce water, to all, regardless of consequences. While occupy. iding that the expeuses of keeping the ditches og this floor, I will take the liberty of saying a repair and of cultivation, without taking into few words upon apother matter contained in the nsideration the cost of the ditches, amounted to majority report of the Committee on Canals, to ore than he could rea ize from the sale of the which, as one of the minority, I dissented, and that ops, and after trying the experiment for more is whether the Superintendent of Public Works, an twenty years with the same result, woulo an officer who is to hold for eight years, and intinue the unpr.titable practice ? Few men who is to be vested with full power over the ould continue it tive years, much less twenty : caoals, and to be held responsible, should be would prove ruinous to any man, luless he had appointed or elected. The majority recommend her means to sustain himself. This leak in the his appointment by the Governor and Senate, & iblic treasury should be stopped, and a large an minority, that he sliould be elected by the people. bal sum, in addition to the millious required for Now sir, I have not as yet lost all faith in the pairs, will he secured to improve the navigation virtue and intelligence of the people, or in the

the paying canals and improve our finances theory that the people are capable of self governaving so long eujoyed these bounties, so long ernment, and have sufficient discerument to elect ceived temporary relief, I suppose the people their own officers. From what has been advanced 'those localities imagine they have a prescripy houorable gentlemen on this floor. I conve right to them, and loud wailings and lamen- clude that the fhith of many of them has been itions will be heard if they are suddenly depriv -haken, that they are convinced that the people i of them. Now, sir, to wean then gradually. of this country have become so corrupt, iguora06

give them a fuir opportunity to prepare them- od demoralized, that they can no longer bo blves to rely upon their own resources, a minor trusted. If they are honest in their opinions and ty of the Committee on Canals propose that the correct in their conclusions, then, sir, we had bet. resent systein be allowed to continue in force ter at once abaudon our present system.subscribe ntil the first day of May, 1874, as provided in the old Federal doctrine, reorganize our he following section reported by them, and en government on the strong central principle, elect ered on our files as No. 56, which section is a. Governor and Sevate for life, and give them the allows : :

appointment, not only of the Superintendent of Pub-"SEC. 11. The total annnal expenditure upon lic Works, but also of all of our principal officers. ny lateral canal for collection. superintenrence ive the nomination of this officer to the Gover. epairs and management shall not, from and afternor, and in addition to the great patronage already he first day of May, 1874 exceed the tolls upon, bestowed upon him, you add indirectly the control ind other sources of income of such canal, ioclud. na immense patronage of the canals. In 1846. Dg in such iucome the tolls upou the Erie canal' the Constitutional Convention was satisfied, from

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the experience of the past, that it was wise to re-, and that he has presented to this Convention the duce the patronage of the Governor; pow a new results of his examination so fully and sw ably as generation propose to fly back to the ills their he has. The Committee on Canals had before predecessors suffered from. We have had some them much of the same testimony. They con. experience of the judgment of the Governor in sidered it; and it was in refereuce to the system the appointment of canal officers A few years of fraud and of corruption, which is developed aço a canal commissioner was appointed by the in that testimony, that they have prepared and Governor to tilt a vacancy. As pear as I can presented to this Conventiou for its adoption the judge from the report of the investigating Com- section relating to the care and management of mittee of the Senate, this appointee turned out the canals; and, before I proceed to consider a to be one of the most dishonest of the gang of more important subject which has occupied this pilferers, and pot very creditable to the Gover. committee almost altogether hitherto-the nor's judgment. Of such specimens we want no finances derived from the canal- I wish to say a more. If we trust the people to elect their Gov. Sew words in reference to this proposition. It ernor why not trust them to elect this officer ? If has been our endeavor, sir, to change the policy you have faith in their good judgment in the one which has hitherto provailed for the purpose of case have faith in the other. It may be asked, placing the cabals, their care and management, in why pot continue the present system of three or all and every department, in the hauds of one more heads to the canal department, so as to di. man, who shall be selected, who shall be a man vide the great respoosibility ? My answer is, this who will best discharge this high duty. We dehas been tried and failed to give satisfaction; sire by doing that to place the responsibility of under it plunder has been the order of the day, these great works, so important to the State, in and, judging from the investigations of the Sen. the hands of some one man known to the people, ate Cununnittee, it has been customary for the and whom the people will look to for the faithful Beveral persons in charge each to retire at the discharge of the high duty of his office. We be end of his term with a competency, or at least lieve that this power will be exercised better, with a full purse., In consequence of the short. with more efficiency, with more care, with ness of the present term of these officers, three less expenditure, and with perfect honesty, in years, in the course of eight years (the term pro- the bands of such a man, than it will be posed for the new superintendent) quite a number if it shall continue to be intrusted as for of the present class of officers would, under a many years past to several persovs. When such corrupt system, take the liberty of helping them- has been the case we have of late years found selves with sufficient for life. "If corruption is to that none of the officials seemed to feel personally continue to be the rule, then I would prefer the any responsibility to the people for the great one-man power, for it costs less to support and work intrusted to their charge. The office of enrich one thau it does to enrich many. There is the Superintendent of Public Works of tbis State one thing which is clear, and that is that no syg. should command the highest talent, the highest tem will give satisfaction unless honestly man- character that can be selected from our citizens. aged, and that almost any system honestly man. Here are a thousand miles of canal; it is the

aged will work well. Everything depends on the great net-work of our interval system of trade; honesty and capacity of those in charge, and I it is a work ihat affects the interest of every

, think the people are as likely to select an honest citizen of this State ; it should ever be supervised and capable man, as the Governor. For one, I with the greatest care, integrity and ability, yet have faith in the people of this country; 1 We depend upon its results for the support depend upon their good judgment. They may at our government in part, and largely for the distimes bo mistaken and led iulo error, but eventu. charge of that indebtedness which is now pressally they will return to the right path and ing upon the State. We propose that the indiwill hurl from their places those who have robbed (vidual to be intrusted with this high office shall them. We all desire the prosperity of our coun- bring to its discharge the highest character for try. For one, I hope that the day will never ar. integrity, and that he, by the position given him, rive that the people of this country will become by the salary allowed him, and by the power 80 demoralized as to show themselves unworthy which be will possess, shall be able to attract tha of self-government and, like Mexico and the Cen- attention of the people of this State, to secure tral and South American States, inhabited by a their confidence, and to create a character and mixed race, become a prey to continual revolu. position for himself that will commend hita to the tions, with no security for life or property. people as worthy of the highest office in their

Mr. SEYMOUR—The Committee on Canale, gift. The office of the canal commissioner was after much labor in the investigation of our canal once such an office in this State. It then com. system, after much thought and reflection, have manded the best character, the best ability, presented for the consideration of this Conven the highest integrity; and it was a proud day for tion two general propositions. One of them re- this Siate, and for our system of internal improvelates to the care and management of the canals, ments, when auch men as Van Rensselaer, Young, and the other relates to their improvement and 1 and Bouck and their com peers had the charge of the appropriation of their finances. I have been this system. It was prosperous then. There gratified to find that the gentleman from Kings were no charges of corruption; none of our citim (Mr. Barnard] has with such care and labor ex. zens felt that the public interests were intrusted amived the testimony taken under the authority to bad hands; none of them fearod that the puba of the Legislature in reference to the working of lic moneys would be squandered. The people our present system of management of the cauals, felt a confidence in these men, in their judgment




Resolution in reference to, 233.

Amendment of Mr. Hitchcock in reference ABOLISHMENT OF OFFICE OF SUPERINTENDENT OF


Amendment of Mr. Ketcham in reference Resolution in reference to, 193.


Amendment of Mr. Van Campen in refer. Resolution in reference to, 217, 351.


Resolution of instruction to committee on Petition in referenco to, 895.

revision to amend article on organiza

tion of Legislature in reference to, 3594 ABSENTEES, Resolution in reference to, 412.

Resolution in reference to, 266, 412, 680, Resolution in reference to pay of, 2779.

1919, 1951, 2058, 2098, 2263, 2528, 2529, Resolution requesting information from

2567, 2657, 2659, 2659, 3003, 3788. Comptroller in reference to compensa


Committee appointed on, 142.
Resolution requesting Secretary to notify

Committee on, resolution to obtain inforto attend, 3415, 3416.

mation from, 641, 643. Resolution requesting to resign their

Debate on report of committee on, 3265 to seats, 2815.


Debate on report of committee on revision Resolution in reference to testimony of,

on article, 3666 to 3672. 135, 149.

Report from committee on, 2274. ACTIVE MILITIA,

Resolution to appoint committee on, 12, 793.

Resolution to reconsider motion reconsid. Resolution of inquiry to committee on

ering vote rejecting report on, 3624. militia and military officers in referenco


Appointed messenger, 29.
On taking the chair, 19.

At close of proceedings of Convention,

Resolution tendering thanks of Convon3950.

tion to mayor and authorities of, 2660.

Resolution of thanks to mayor and comADDRESS TO PEOPLE, SHOWING CHANGES IN CONSTI

mon council of, 3874, 3913.
Resolution to appoint select committee to ALDERMEN, BOARDS OF,
prepare, 3777, 3865.

Remarks of Mr. Develin on, 3140.
Report from committee on, 3916.


Remarks of Mr. Livingston on, 3555 Debate ir reference to, 187, 2655.


Resolution of instruction to committee on Resolution in reference to, 25, 161, 358.

revision to amend article on preamblo ADJOURNMENT, FINAL, OF CONVENTION,

and bill of rights in reference to, 3555. Resolution in reference to, 647, 673, 3283, ALIENS, EQUAL RIGHTS OF, TO HOLD REAL ESTATE, 3891

Remarks of Mr. Alvord on, 3258.

to, 145.

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ALIENS, ETC. — Continued

Remarks by, on report of committee on
Remarks of Mr. Gould on, 3259.

Governor and Lieutenant-Governor, etc.,
Mr. M. I. Townsend on, 3259.

884, 895, 1109, 1115, 1116, 1124.
Mr. Verplanck on, 3259.

Remarks of, on report of committee on
Mr. Wales on, 3257.

judiciary, 2176, 2450, 2592, 2599, 2602.
Resolution of instruction to committee on Remarks of, on report of committee on
revision to amend article on organiza-

official corruption, 3343, 3353.
tion of the Legislature in reference to,

Remarks of, on report of committee on

revision on article on Governor, Lieuten-

ant-Governor, etc., 6113.

Remarks of, on report of committee on
A delegate from the thirty-second sena-

revision on article on preamble and bill
torial district, 978, 996, 1903.

of rights, 3543.
Appointed member of committee

Remarks of, on report of committee on
finances of State, 95.

revision on article on town and county
Minority report from committee on finance,

officers, 3658.
by, 1679.

Remarks of, on resolution to instruct com-
Oath of office taken by, 18.

mittee on revision to amend article on
Petition against abrogating board of re-

judiciary, 2971, 3004.
gents of university, presented by, 1679, Report from committee on Governor,

Lieutenant-Governor, etc., presented
Petition against extending right of suf-

by, 666.
frage to Indians, presented by, 3239.

Resolution of inquiry in reference to pow-
Petition in reference to prohibiting dona-

ers and duties of county courts, by, 100.
tions to sectarian institutions, presented Resolution of instruction to committee on
by, 665.

revision to amend article on Governor,
Remarks of, on joint report of committee

Lieutenant-Governor, etc., in reference
on finances and canals, 1760, 1888, 1900.

to salary of Governor, 3612, 3619.
Remarks on resolution to appoint commit Resolution of instruction to committee on
tee to report mode of submission of

revision to amend article on judiciary
amendments to Constitution, 395.

in reference to surrogate, 2971, 3004.
Remarks of, on taxatiou, 3489.

Resolution of instruction to committee on
Resolution of inquiry to Comptroller in

revision to amend article on town and
reference to common school fund, 138,

county officers in reference to super-

visors, 3658.
ALLEN, Cornelius L.,

Supplementary report from committee on
A delegate from the twelfth senatorial

Governor, Lieutenant-Governor, in ref-
district, 186, 234, 747, 2885, 3352, 3720.

erence to veto power, presented by, 668.
Appointed member of the committee on ALLEN, NORMAN M.,

the Governor, Lieutenant-Governor, etc., A delegate from the twenty-second sena.

torial district, 3446.
Oath of office taken by, 18.

Appointed member of committee on coun-
Petition against abolishing office of re-

ties, towos, etc., 96.
gents of university, presented by, 2443. Oath of office taken by, 18.
Petition in favor of abolishing office of

Remonstrance against abolishing regents
regents of university, presented by, of university, presented by, 1679.

ALVORD, Thomas G.,
Petition in reference to prohibiting dona A delegate from the twenty-second sena
tions to sectarian institutions, presented

torial district, 57, 59, 109, 123, 148, 153,
by, 416.

191, 413, 598, 612, 720, 721, 729, 739,
Petitions in reference to support of com-

744, 830, 848, 998, 1034, 1286, 1345,
mon schools, presented by, 2356.

1382, 1606, 1407, 1723, 1738, 1739, 1760,
Remarks of, on adjournment, 188.

1767, 1779, 1791, 1787, 1798, 1799, 1863,
Remarks of, on report of committee on

1895, 1951, 1979, 1990, 2051, 2054, 2087,
education, 2839, 2884,

2088, 2091, 2151, 2158, 2281, 2345, 2366

2391, 2488, 2687, 2755, 2765, 2801, 2816,
2837, 2901, 2965, 3084, 3090, 3091, 3158,
3163, 3170, 3173, 3174, 3180, 3204, 3225,
3232, 3283, 3384, 3409, 3411, 3428, 3432,
3439, 3455, 3456, 3461, 3478, 3526,-3527,
3532, 3533, 3535, 3537, 3550, 3554, 3561,
3572, 3586, 3595, 3598, 3602, 3604, 3605,
3618, 3621, 3623, 3629, 3655, 3656, 3688,
3684, 3609, 3743, 3748, 3749, 3752, 3758,

3772, 3789, 8828, 3858, 3875, 3919.
Appointed member of committee on

canals, 95.
Appointed member of committee on cities,

etc., 95.
Appointed member of committee on re-

vision, 565.
Motion for call of Convention, made by, 412.
Notice to reconsider resolution in refer-

ence to expunging certain proceedings

of Convention, given by, 882.
Oath of office taken by, 18.
Petition against abolishing office of re-

gents of university, presented by, 1771,

Petition in reference to prohibiting dona-

tions to sectarian institutions, presented

by, 350.
Petition in reference to prohibiting the

sale of intoxicating liquors, presented

by, 445.
Remarks of, in reference to adjournment,

163, 187, 1912, 2657.
Remarks of, in reference to amending jour.

nal, 2490.
Remarks of, in reference to death of Hon.

L. Harris Hiscock, 26.
Remarks of, in reference to death of Hon.

David L. Seymour, 1974.
Remarks of, in reference to employment

of clerks to committees, 945.
Remarks of, in reference to final adjourn-

ment of Convention, 3412, 3414.
Remarks of, in reference to granting leaves

of absence, 1863.
Remarks of, in reference to incongruity in

article on Secretary of State, etc., 3907,

Remarks of, in reference to postponement

of consideration of report of finance

committee, 1977.
Remarks of, in reference to publication of

debates, 106, 108.
Remarks of, in reference to State aid to

railroads, 3465, 3480.

Remarks of, on appeal from decision of

Chair, 3829, 3830.
Remarks of, on call of Convention, 413.
Remarks of, on consideration of report of

committee on rules, 45, 69.
Remarks of, on financ of State, 3501,

3517, 3519.
Remarks of, on joint report of com-

mittee on finances and on canals, 1407,
1409, 1412, 1415, 1417, 1421, 1423,
1424, 1425, 1431, 1433, 1434, 1435,
1436, 1437, 1438, 1442, 1721, 1722,
1728, 1742, 1750, 1758, 1760, 1763,
1783, 1790, 1791, 1800, 1804, 1820,
1821, 1843, 1861, 1865, 1882, 1883,
1889, 1895, 1904, 1906, 1936, 1938,
1992, 1999, 2017, 2240, 2244, 2254,
2261, 2304, 2310, 2311, 2320, 2322,
2341, 2344, 2346, 2347, 2350, 2352,

Remarks of, on motion for call of Conven-

tion, 716, 718, 722, 738, 741, 742, 744, 746.
Remarks of, on motion to reconsider vote

adopting article on organization of Legis.

lature, 3457, 3866. •
Remarks of, on motion to refer reports of

committees on finances and on canals to
same committee of the whole, 1210,

1212, 1214.
Remarks of, on postponement of considera-

tion of report of committee on powers

and duties of Legislature, 1290.
Remarks of, on report of committee on

amendments to and submission of Con-

stitution, 3885, 3897.
Remarks of, on report of committee on

Attorney-General, etc., 1282, 1286.
Remarks of, on report of committee on

canals, 2020, 2021, 2027, 2028, 2029,
2033, 2035, 2036, 2039, 2043, 2044,
2045, 2050, 2051, 2052, 2055, 2063,
2064, 2070, 2071, 2072, 2073, 2084,

2092, 2093.
Remarks of, on report of committee on

charities, etc., 2734, 2743.
Remarks of, on report of committee on

cities, 2981, 2982, 2983, 2988, 3082,

3085, 3166, 3169, 3207.
Remarks of, on report of committee on

contingent expenses, in reference to fur.

nishing stationery to reporters, 629.
Remarks of, on report of committee on con.

tingert expenses, in reference to compen.
sation for publishing debates, 3868.

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