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duchy, during his minority, came first to be considered in 1795; and in every consultation upon the mode of making it effectual, the prince had always made a proviso, that no measure to be pursued should imply any dispute between him and his royal father. When it was thought proper to proceed, by presenting a petition of right, the lord chancellor was applied to, who intimated, that he did not consider it as belonging to his official duty to present such a petition to the king. In 1796, however, the petition was prepared; and after it had lain over a time, the prince wrote the lord chancellor on the subject, who returned for answer, that he did not think it within the province of his official duties to present such a petition to the king. Since that time, no other mode of presenting it being found, nothing farther had been done in it. This statement he had made to show that the prince wished that this question should not be considered as between the king and himself.

best way for him to succeed in any claims he might conceive he had, was to bring them forward constitutionally. For his part, he thought, that, owing to the influcnce which a right hon. gentleman opposite had acquired in the House, by his eloquence, or some other means, the prince of Wales, on every occasion where a question concerning him was brought forward, had been treated by the House in a degrading and shameful manner. [Here the hon. baronet was called to order. The Speaker observed, that to say the House treated any branch of the royal family in a degrading and shameful manner was unparliamentary.] He meant to say, that in his opinion the prince of Wales, in consequence of the influence of a right hon. gentleman opposite, had been treated in a manner unworthy of the House. He had seen, that by loans, and jobs, and pensions, the minister could always procure support to his own measures: he was jealous, therefore, of the influence of ministers. He thought the prince should be made independent: that he should be encouraged to bring forward his claims in a constitutional manner, that he might have no temptation to become the slave of administration. When he considered the nature of the profusion of ministers, when he saw pensions given to rich earls daughters, and made the subject of marriage settlements; when emigrant French clergy and noblesse were supported by money voted in parliament, he was surprised how any gentleman could stickle about taking the claims of the prince of Wales into consideration. He had no objection to a just degree of splendorin the crown; and he thought any one might look at the splendor of St. James's without being dazzled; but he did not think that the prince ought to be treated with contempt. The late administration had shown a marked disregard for the prince of Wales. He thought the prince almost one of the worst used men in the kingdom. Ministers had treated him with equal contempt as those whom they had confined in Cold Bath Fields. Indeed, they treated all those, of whatever rank or station, who did not support their measures, and would not be subservient to their views, with indignity or with rigour.

Colonel Grosvenor had come to the House inclined to favour the claims of the prince; but the arguments he had heard had convinced him, that he could not venture upon the decision of the right.

Mr. Johnstone expressed great surprise, that gentlemen who had opposed the vote on the civil list, could consent to load the public with the sums now claimed. It appeared to him to justify what had been said of public men, that they were indifferent about what sums might be imposed on the nation, until the contest was about, through whose hands they should pass. Mr. Calcraft thought the prince's claim

entitled to the attention of the House.

Sir F. Burdett conceived that the cases of voting money to the civil list, and voting for examining into a claim of right by the prince of Wales were very different. It was the duty of every member to be jealous of the application of the civil list money, especially after repeated arrears had occurred, and when it was strongly suspected that the public money was unconstitutionally applied by ministers. No such jealousy was to be entertained of the prince. While this constitution existed, it was right that a suitable degree of splendor should be assigned to the prince. Surely there was no proportion in the extent, and none in the danger to be apprehended from the sums voted to the one, and the sums voted to the other. Besides, it was right to teach the prince, that the

Mr. Ellis said, he deprecated whatever brought burthens on the people, as much as any man; and as to the present question, he conceived it to be of that kind with which the House had nothing to do.

Earl Temple said, he should have given a silent vote, were it not for what had fallen from the hon. baronet, which he thought made it necessary for every independent man to state his reasons for the vote he should give. His lordship then delivered his opinion, that the House was not a fit place for the discus. sion of the prince's right.

Mr. Jones said, that the claims of the prince were comprehended in one word, and that was, justice. He thought the honour of the House, and the dignity of the empire were at stake: "Fiat justitia ruat cœlum."

Mr. Manners Sutton observed, that nothing could be more unfounded, than the assertion, that he came there to involve his majesty and the prince in vari. ance; that could not possibly be the case; for the question was not between the prince and his majesty, but between the prince and the public. His majesty had no right to receive the revenues in question; nor, in fact did he receive them: they were received by the public; and he asked them of the latter in parliament, the only constitutional representative of the public. His learned friend had said, that the only remedy was by an adverse suit at law. He was not aware how this was practicable; as, in the opinion of one of the first legal authorities in the country (Mr. Hargrave), no petition of right could lie with respect to personal property. He knew not by what rule of law the king could be called on to restore, even supposing his majesty to be the object of application; but he would repeat, that if the king did receive and should resist, the prince would not enforce his claim.

The question being put, "That the other orders of the day be now read," the House divided:

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Bunbury, sir Charles
Burch, J. R.
Burdett, sir F.
Cavendish, lord G.
Calcraft, John
Combe, H. C.
Courtenay, John
Crewe, John
Darell, sir Lionel
Denison, W. J.
Dent, John
Dickens, Francis
Dundas, Charles
Dundas, hon. L.
Dundas, hon. C. L.
Erskine, hon. T.

Fane, F.
Fitzpatrick, general
Folkes, sir Martin
Folkestone, viscount
Foster, right hon. J.
Fox, hon. Charles J.
Fullarton, colonel
Fuller, J.
Garforth, J. B.
Gascoyne, general
Hare, James
Howard, Henry
Hussey, W.
Huntingfield, lord
Jeffreys, N.

Jones, J. Tyrwhitt
Johnstone, sir W.
Kemp, Thomas
Knight, R. P.
Langton, Gore
Langston, John
Lygon, William,
Lowther, sir W.
Lemon, sir W.
Laurence, Dr.
Lubbock, John
Lloyd, J. M.
Lowther, colonel
May, Ed.
Morland, Wm.

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Mr. Canning's Motion for Papers respecting the Island of Trinidad.] ́April 2. -Mr. Canning said, that the present motion was preliminary to one, of which he had also given notice, relative to the cultivation of the Island of Trinidad. He did not disguise, that his attention was di rected to the question relative to the slave trade, though he did not mean then to enter into the discussion of that question; but, often as it had been discussed, he had never heard any one attempt to maintain that if the trade did not now exist, it ought to be commenced. There had been only two points relative to this subject that had been decided upon by the House; the one in 1792, that the slave trade should be gradually abolished; and the

other in 1797, when an address was
voted, praying that his majesty would take
such measures as would lead to the ulti-
mate abolition of this trade. It must be
admitted, that to bring a great extent of
new lands into cultivation, must be very
far from contributing to the ultimate abo-
lition of this trade; and, if the whole
island of Trinidad was brought into culti-
vation, it evidently could not contribute
to that abolition. It was important, there-
fore, that the House should be in posses-
sion of authentic information relative to
this island. If he was not misinformed,
the land to be put into a state of cultiva-
tion in Trinidad, was somewhat more
than half the whole quantity of land which
was cultivated in all our West India
Islands. According to a statement pub-
lished by a member of that House, now
no more, the whole quantity of land in a
state of cultivation, in the island of Ja-
maica, in 1795, amounted to 1,000,000
of acres, employing 250,000 slaves. If
he was not much misinformed, Trinidad
contained 800,000 acres, of which, at the
time it was captured by Great Britain,
only one-eighteenth was in a state of cul-
tivation, employing about 10,000 negroes.
If 250,000 negroes were employed in the
cultivation of the lands in Jamaica, how
great must be the number of negroes
which must be imported to stock the lands
of Trinidad. The objection most fre-
quently made, by those who opposed the
abolition of the slave trade, was, that it
was injurious to the vested interests of the
West India proprietors. No man was less
willing than himself to trench upon those
interests; but this objection would tend
rather to strengthen the motion which he
intended to bring forward, as the great
advantage resulting from confining his mo-
tion to Trinidad was, that there was very
little property vested in that island; and
he particularly wished to know, as nearly
as possible, how many individuals had a
vested interest in that island. He had
been informed, that since the capture of
Trinidad, some resumption-grants of land
had been made. The Spaniards had made
several grants of this nature, as they had
formerly done in Jamaica; that is to say,
the lands were to be resumed, if not put
in a state of cultivation within a certain
time. He wished to know what the cri-
terion was, by which it was ascertained
that the lands were not put into a state of
proper cultivation?
Upon considering
the subject, it struck him, that nothing

was so likely to be the criterion, as the
number of labourers or slaves employed in
the cultivation of the land. If this was
the case, and if the land was liable to be
resumed if there was not a sufficient num-
ber of slaves employed in its cultivation,
it became a question, what was the least
number of negroes without which the land
could not be put in a proper state of cul-
tivation. Upon looking at Jamaica, he
found, that 250,000 negroes were em-
ployed in the cultivation of 1,000,000
acres, or one negro to every four acres;
he might take this, therefore, as the least
number of negroes, without which the
land could not be sufficiently cultivated.
He wished, however, that the House
should be in possession of every informa-
tion relative to the subject; and con-
cluded by moving, "That an humble
Address be presented to his Majesty, that.
he will be graciously pleased to give di-
rections, that there be laid before this
House, copies or abstracts of any inform-
ation transmitted by the governor or com
mander in chief of the island of Trinidad,
since the capture of the same, relative to
the state of the cultivation of the said
island, and to the amount of its popu-
lation, distinguishing the different classes
of inhabitants; likewise of any plans or
descriptions of any proposed allotment or
distribution of lands for the improvement
of the said island; and also, copies of any
instructions which have been sent to the
governor or commander in chief of the
island of Trinidad, since the capture of
the same, directing or authorizing him to
make any grants, sales, or settlements of
land within the said island; and of any
accounts received from the said governor
or commander in chief, of any grants,
sales, or settlements, made in pursuance
of such direction or authority; and also
copies of any information received from
the governor or commander in chief of the
island of Trinidad, relative to any re-
sumptions of lands within the said island,
since the capture of the same; specifying
the causes of such resumptions, and the
authority under which they have been
made."

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Mr. Chancellor Addington was tremely desirous that the House, in acquiescing in this motion, should not en. tertain expectations of information which, he was inclined to think, could not be afforded. All that he could say was, that if the House should agree to the address, every thing that depended upon govern

ment would be done, to give it full effect; | but no inference was to be drawn from this acquiescence, that the motion would. be the means of procuring all the information that was expected.

General Gascoyne said, that the right hon. mover had asked, whether, if the slave trade had not yet existed, any member of parliament would venture to recommend its institution? Now, there certainly was such a member of parliament, and he was that person. He would say, that if the slave trade had never existed, viewing, as he did, the beneficial consequences of it to this country, it ought to be commenced now. The advantages of this trade were immense; they were not confined to the town that he represented, but were diffused over the whole country. The motion was then agreed to.

Debate on the Budget.] April 5. The House having resolved itself into a Committee of Ways and Means, the several acts passed relative to the Income Tax, and the accounts that had been presented, were ordered to be referred to the said committee.

Mr. Chancellor Addington said, that whatever might be the reflexions which presented themselves to his mind at the present moment, he should abstain from uttering any, except those which appeared to be absolutely necessary. would be his first duty to remind the committee of the Supplies already voted, which were as follow:

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By this it appeared, that the period for which these sums were voted for the navy, army, ordnance, and miscellaneous services was for five months only. There would remain seven months more to be voted in the committee of supply; but, under the present circumstances of the country, it was not his intention to propose now any resolutions for the remaining seven months for the navy or army; but, in the mean time, he could assure the committee, that every retrenchment that was practicable should take place. There would, therefore, remain to be voted for the navy, army, ordnance, &c. for seven months, and some for miscellaneous services. The Ways and Means, as they now stood, were as follow:

Duties on pensions, offices,

&c. and malt duties

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Surplus subscription on exchequer bills funded Loan to be provided for by Great Britain.. 23,000,000 Ireland 2,000,000

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Amount of Ways and Means voted on or before the 5th

£. 3. d. 2,750,000 0 0

180,874 0 0

25,000,000 00

27,930,874 0

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MEM.-Remains to be voted.

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Surplus Consolidated Fund, to the 5th of January 1803 Exchequer Bills on Supplies 1803 Lottery

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Loan to be contracted in Ireland

Stock created by Loan 1802

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The terms of the loan were 65 3 per cent consols, 60 reduced. Deferred stock, 6. 19s. 3d.; making together 1317. 19s. 3d. for every 100l. of money. The 3 per cent consols were taken at 754, being 14 per cent more than the market price at the close of Saturday. The reduced, generally estimated at 1 per cent under the consols, were taken at 14 above the market price on Saturday also. This bargain he considered as perfectly satisfactory and auspicious to the greatest degree. On the subject of the tax on income, he could assure the House, that the step which he was about to take was the result of his own thought; and that not only from what he had felt in his own breast for a considerable time, but that which he had communicated to others, who, if necessary, would vouch it for him; and he was sure the hon. gentleman opposite would do him the justice to say, that in January last he spoke with reserve upon that subject, and begged that no inference should be drawn as to the course which might be thought advisable by the executive government to pursue; all he said, or meant to say, at that time was, that the income tax was a measure much too important for the House to let go during the continuance of the war. He should be

sorry if the measure he was about to take was the result of a change in his opinion, as to the policy of continuing this tax had the war continued; for, upon that subject, he knew he differed from many hon. members, for whose judgment he had great respect He was, however, bound to declare, that it was his thorough and entire conviction, that it was to the wisdom which originated that tax, and the firm ness which induced the House to persist in it, that the country was indebted for the comforts we now had; for it was by that system that we were enabled to surmount the difficulties with which, during the last three years, we had to struggle; and it was from that conviction also he now recommended that this burthen should not be left to rest on the shoulders of the public in time of peace, because it should be reserved for the important occasions which, he trusted, would not soon recur. In that sense of the matter, he should always look to this mode of impost to be carried into effect, with little difference from that which now subsisted, except as to such modifications as might render it more efficient; he thought it worthy of the credit and the character of this country, to look forward to such a resource, in the painful event of being obliged to struggle for its honour and independence: not that he apprehended such a condition likely to be our lot soon; but he thought it his duty to state the sentiments he entertained on this subject

sentiments which he believed he should never change. He had now, however, the satisfaction of proposing an exoneration to the extent of this impost for the people of this country. He had stated, that it was his painful duty to suggest to the committee, the taxes by which he proposed that interest was to be provided for 97,934,4377.; and he should commence this head of what he had to submit, with observing, that it was impossible to satisfy the claim of interest on such a sum, without proposing taxes which must bear hard on the people. All he would ask of the committee was, to follow up the principle which had governed our conduct of late, namely, that of looking our debts and engagements fairly in the face.

Without further preface he should proceed to lay before the committee, the taxes, by which he proposed to provide the means of raising the supply. The first he had to propose was a tax on malt, hops, and beer. On malt. Is, Od.

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