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184, 299 I ask to have the Secretary read the amendment which I send to the desk. The Vice PRESIDENT. The amendment will be stated. The SECRETARY. On page 34, line 26, it is proposed to insert:

“An employee in the Postal Service who has served for a period of 25 years or more can be recommended by the postmaster of the city in which he is employed, or other authorized officer, for indefinite leave of absence to the Postinaster General under the following conditions: An employee who has become incapacitated from performing his duties through superannuation shall appear before a board of examiners appointed by the Postmaster General, who shall serve without compensation, with the exception of a physician, who must examine the applicant and make minute inquiry into his physical condition, and make a report of their findings to the Postmaster General. If the application for indefinite leave of absence is recommended by the board of examiners and approved by the Postmaster General, the applicant shall be granted an extended leave of absence, together with an allowance of $600 per annum. This allowance shall be divided pro rata into equal daily installments and shall be payable monthly. If it is found necessary to employ a substitute to fill the place of an employee who has been granted an extended leave of absence, said substitute shall be paid at the rate allowed for vacation work: Provided, however, That this will in no way interfere with the substitute's promotion provided a vacancy in the regular force occurs and said substitute is in line for promotion by virtue of his standing on the substitute list: Provided further, That the Postmaster General can order an employee who is on an extended leave of absence to report for duty at the office in which he was last employed during seasons of the year when the mail is extraordinarily heavy and the services of the employee could be utilized to good advantage: Provided further, That in the event of an employee being required to perforin duty during such emergency periods he shall not receive any extra compensation for such service other than the allowance granted him while on an extended leave of absence."

Mr. BANKHEAD. Mr. President-
The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator from Alabama.

Mr. BANKHEAD. I make the point of order that the amendment is new legislation. The VICE PRESIDENT. The point of order is sustained.

(The bill was reported to the Senate as amended, and the amendments were concurred in. The amendments were ordered to be engrossed, and the bill to be read a third time. The bill was read the third time and passed.)

The CHAIRMAN. We will now adjourn until to-morrow morning at 9.30 o'clock.

(Whereupon, at 12.45 p. m., the committee adjourned until Thursday, July 12, 1917, at 9.30 o'clock a. m.)



JULY 12, 1917.


Washington, D. C. The committee met, pursuant to adjournment, at 9.30 o'clock a. m., in room 226, Senate Office Building, Senator Kenneth D. McKellar presiding

Present: Senator McKellar (chairman).

Also present: Mr. H. M. McLarin, Mr. Thomas F. Flaherty, Mr. John S. Beach, Mr. W. C. Ryan, Mr. Willard F. Warner, Mr. M. F. O'Donoghue, Mr. Edward J. Ryan, Dr. Lledellyn Jordan, and Mr. Robert H. Alcorn.

The committee resumed the consideration of the bills (S. 157, 281, and 633) for the retirement of employees in the civil service.

The CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order. Who is the next witness?

Mr. ROBERT H. ALCORN (chairman Joint Civil Service Retirement Committee). Mr. Chairman, I suppose it is your desire to get through

I by noon if you can. The CHAIRMAN. If we can; yes. I would like to do so.

Mr. ALCORN. For that reason I will ask the speakers that we call on this morning to be as brief as they can covering the points that you desire. I suppose the committee will allow supplemental statements to be filed within a period of something like 5 or 10 days.

The CHAIRMAN. Yes. Mr. ALCORN. The next speaker on the program is Mr. McLarin, of The Federal Employee, a magazine published monthly by the Federal Employees Union.

The CHAIRMAN. You may proceed, Mr. McLarin.



Mr. McLARIN. Mr. Chairman and gentlemen, we are urging this law at this time because of the fact that we believe it is a necessary war measure. Anyone who will go into the departments here and go through them will see that they have literally thousands of old men and women who are not able to stand the pace which is being set in the Government work to-day. The conditions, on account of the war, have got to change, and a great many of the older people will not be able to adapt themselves to the change. So instead of their doing something, getting forward with things, putting the Government service on an efficient basis they are in the way of these new


men. Of course, some people would say that we ought to get rid of them. But you can not do that when you have had people working for

yoll all their lives for a mere pittance, who come into the service and stay there largely because they thought they would get something better. They have given their services for long years and there is no humanity in the man who would advocate the retiring of these employees from the service without some provision for their maintenance.

There is one particular feature that has characterized all of the retirement bills that have been introduced up to date, and that is that they confine themselves to the classified employees. Now, the classified employees are the particularly fortunate ones in the service, with a better education, and they are the ones receiving the higher salaries.

The unclassified employees are the men and women who do the drudgery and who do the coarser, harder work; thousands of them have been in the service just as long and have worked just as hard and just as faithfully as have any of the classified employees.

The CHAIRMAN. How many are in the unclassified service?

Mr. McLARIN. I can not say, but I will insert that in the record. The civil-service report gives it; it shows about 280,000 in the classified service, and about 200,000 are in the unclassified service. So these bills, all relating to the classified service, discriminate absolutely against the unclassified man because he has not been able to pass an educational examination.

The CHAIRMAN. Included among the unclassified service are Congressmen and Senators; all others who work for the Government, regardless.

Mr. McLARIN. Yes, sir. It includes people in the Library of Congress, people in the District government; none of these are classified, and all the laborers throughout the service are unclassified. The internal-revenue collectors and the deputy collectors are unclassified. Particularly the largest number, though, is composed of laborers in the lower grades of work.

The CHAIRMAN. Well, you easily see that if we establish anything along that line it will have to be grades established. You could not give all the same retirement pay, such as is proposed among civilservice employees.

Mr. McLARIN. These retirement measures provide for grades according to the pay received by the employee.

The CHAIRMAN. Some of them do and some do not. One bill, I think, provides for a flat retirement rate of $50 a month. That would be more than some of the laborers get, or about as much as they get when in service.

Mr. McLARIN. We would also obviate that. That is as much as the messengers and the skilled laborers get. They are classified. It is a distinction without a difference.

The CHAIRMAN. Well, I think if we have any retirement pay, it ought to be graded.

Mr. McLARIN. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. All right, I did not mean to interrupt you.

Mr. McLARIN. Take, for instance, the employees over here in the Library; many of them are highly educated and skilled, and yet there is no bill which has been introduced so far to cover the Library


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