Beresford, Major Bernard, Viset. Black burne, J. I. Boldero, H. G. Borthwick, P. Botfield, B. Bowles, Adm. Hampden, R. Harcourt, G. G. Henley, J. W. Hervey, Lord A. Hodgson, F. Hogg, J. W. Hope, hon. C. Hope, G. W. Hotham, Lord Houldsworth, T. Hughes, W. B. Bramston, T. W. Brisco, M. Broadley, H. Broadwood, H. Bruce, Lord E. Hussey, A. Buck, L. W. Hussey, T. Irton, S Buller, Sir J. Y: James, Sir W. C. Bunbury, T. Jermyn, Earl Jocelyn, Visct. Chelsea, Visct. Jolliffe, Sir W. G. H. Chute, W. L W. Kemble, H. Clayton, R. R. Lennox, Lord A. Lincoln, Earl of Clerk, rt. hon. Sir G. Clifton, J. T. Cockburn,rt. hn.Sir G. Damer, hon. Col. Duncombe, hon. A. Escott, B. Farnham, E. B. Forman, T. S. Fremantle, rt.hn.SirT. Gaskell, J. Milnes Gore, M. Horsman, E. Howick, Visct. placing her and her Colonies on the footing of, and conferring on her and them the privileges enjoyed by, the most favoured nation. The House divided; Ayes 87; Noes 175: Majority 88. List of the AYES. Aglionby, H. A. Arundel and Surrey, Hume, J. Hutt, W. Baine, W. Baring, rt. hn. F. T. Berkeley, hon. Capt. Bouverie, hon. E. P. Labouchere, rt. hn. H. Buckley, E. Lemon, Sir C. Leveson, Lord Macaulay, rt. hn. T. B. Cardwell, E. Marjoribanks, S. Marshall, W. Martin, J. Bowring, Dr. Bright, J. Mitchell, T. A. Brotherton, J. Moffat, G. Browne, hon. W. Morris, D. Mitcalfe, H. Clay, Sir W. Colborne, hn.W.N.R. Cowper, hon. W. F. O'Connell, M. J. Palmerston, Visct. Pechell, Capt. Craig, W. G. Dalmeny, Lord Denison, W.J. Dennistoun, J. Duff, J. Duke, Sir J. Duncan, Visct. Pulsford, R. Dundas, Adm. Ross, D. R. Dundas, F. Russell, Lord J. Sheridan, R. B. Smith, J. A. Ebrington, Visct. Ellice, rt. hon. E. Ewart, W. Ferguson, Sir R. A. Fitzroy, Lord C. Fitzwilliam, hn. G.W. Smith, rt hn. R V. Somerville, Sir W. M. Towneley, J. Cholmondeley, hn. H. Jones, Capt. Forster, M. Gibson, T. M. Gill, T. Gore, hon. R. Grosvenor, Lord R. Wawn, J. T. Hallyburton, Ld. J.G. Williams, W. Hastie, A. Wilshere, W. Hawes, B. Yorke, H. R. Hayter, W. G. Heathcoat, J. TELLERS. Hindley, C. Holland, R. Hill, Lord M. List of the NOES. Acland, Sir T. D. A'Court, Capt. Acion, Col. Alford, Visct. Allix, J. P. Antrobus, E. Arbuthnott, hon. H. Arkwright, G. Astell, W. Baillie, Col. Baillie, H. J. Baird. W. Baldwin, B. Barkly, H. Baring, T. Baring, rt. hon. W. B. Bennett, P. Gladstone, rt.hn.W.E. Gladstone, Capt. Goulburn, rt. hn. H. Graham, rt. hn. Sir J. Granby, Marq. of Lockhart, W. Loftus, Viset. Lopes, Sir R. Lowther, Sir J H. Lowther, hon. Col. Lygon, hon. Gen. Mackenzie, T. Mackenzie, W. F. Maclean, D. McNeill, D. Manners, Lord C. S. Martin, C. W. Masterman, J. Meynell, Capt. Neeld, J. Newdegate, C. N. Peel, rt. ho. Sir R. Pennant, hon. Col. Pringle, A. Rashleigh, W. Rolleston, Col. Rous, hon. Capt. Ryder, hon. G. D. Scott, hon. F. Seymour, Sir H. B. Sibthorp, Col. Smith, A. Smith, rt. hn, T. B. C. Ellice, E. jun. Howard, Capt. Ord, W. Elphinstone, H. Humphery, J. Bannerman, A. Matheson, J. O'Brien, C. Duncombe, T. Bellew, R. M. Gisborne, T. Morrison, Gen. White, S. Napier, Sir C. Hamilton, W. Hepburn, Sir T. Houldsworth, T. Collett, J. Henniker, Lord Holmes, hn. W. A. Rice, E. R. Hope, Sir J. Horuby, J. House adjourned at half-past two o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Wednesday, July 16, 1845. MINUTES.] BILLS. Public.-Reported. -Turnpike Acts Continuance; Loan Societies; Highway Rates; Militia Ballots Suspension; Unlawful Oaths (Ireland); Land Revenue Act Amendment. PETITIONS PRESENTED. By Mr. T. Duncombe, from Henry Walker, of 29 St. John Street, Clerkenwell, against Lunatics Bill. The House assembled at twelve o'clock. LUNATICS.] On the Motion that the Speaker leave the Chair to go into Committee on the Lunatics Bill, Mr. T. Duncombe protested against proceeding with the consideration of the Bill in the absence of the right hon. Baronet the Secretary for the Home Department. The hon. Member was proceeding, when the right hon. Baronet the Secretary for the Home Department took his seat; and the hon. Member said he would not further oppose the Motion. House in Committee. On Clause 5, which provides for the retiring pensions of the Commissioners, Mr. Warburton moved to omit all the words after that," for the purpose of inserting the following words: "Any superannuation allowance to be granted to any paid Commissioner appointed, or to be appointed, under this Act, shall be granted only as a Compensation for services performed under this Act, and shall be subject to the provisions of an Act passed in the fourth and fifth years of His late Majesty William the Fourth, in respect of such officers and clerks as might enter the public service after the 4th day of August, 1829." Mr. S. Crawford objected to any superannuation allowance. He concurred with the hon. Member for Finsbury in recommending the postponement of the Bill. Amendment agreed to. On the Motion that the clause, as amended, stand part of the Bill, Public Works (Ireland). a Mr. T. Duncombe objected altogether HOUSE OF LORDS, to granting retiring pensions to the Com Thursday, July 17, 1845. missioners, and should take the sense of the House on the point. Why should MINUTES.) Bills. Public.—?". Turnpike Acts Continu ance; Militia Ballots Suspension; Loan Societies; Highthese Commissioners be placed in a better way Rates; Borough and Watch Rates ; Art Unions; situalion than the Poor Law Commission- Unlawful Oaths (Ireland); Commons' Inclosure ; Appre hension of Offenders. ers and the Inspectors of prisons ? Their 24. Recognizances for Costs in Bills. duties were performed principally for the za. and passed :-Administration of Justice (Court of benefit of the rich, who ought to provide Chancery) Acts Amendment; Statute Labour (Scotland); for their maintenance. He recommended Law of Defamation and Libel Act Amendment ; Drain age by Tenants for Life; Dog Stealing; Constables, that the duration of the Commission should be limited for the present to three Private.-1* Earl of Powis's (or Robinson's) Eslate; years. He again urged on the Govern- Shrewsbury and Holyhead Road. 24. Direct London and Portsmouth Railway: Tacumshin ment the policy of post poning the Bill till Lake Embankment; Erewash Valley Railway; Irish next Session, when they would be enabled Great Western Railway (Dublin to Galway). to bring in a satisfactory measure, after Reported.-Norwich and Brandon Railway (Diss and Dere ham Branches); Saint Helen's Improvement; Falmouth due deliberation, and a careful considera Harbour; Follett's Estate; Winchester College Estate ; tion of suggested amendments. As, how- Bowes' Estate; Duke of Bridgewater's Trustees' Estate; ever, Government seemed resolved to force Aberdare Railway; Brighton and Chichester Railway (Portsmouth Extension); Guildford, Chichester and the Bill through Parliament, in despite of Portsmouth Railway; Glasgow, Barrhead, and Neilston opposition, and with an attendance of Direct Railway. Members absurdly inadequate to the con 39. and passed :-Birmingham Blue Coat School Charity Estate ; Sampson's Estate (Ward's); Wear Valley Railsideration of such a question, he should feel way: Preston and Wyre Railway; Harwell and Streatley it his duty to offer every clause his most Road; Saint Matthew's (Bethnal Green) Rectory. strenuous opposition. PETITIONS PRESENTED. From Longford, for the Better Observance of the Sabbath. By the Marquess of LonSir J. Graham referred to the conduct donderry, from Landowners of the Baronies of Ards, and of those having charge of the Bill, with Castlereagh, and numerous other places, against the Tereference to the Amendment proposed by nants' Compensation (Ireland) Bill.–From Commissioners of Supply of Nairnshire, for Insertion of Clause in Railthe hon. Member for Kepdal, in proof of way Bills, to compel Proprietors of Railways to Compen. the readiness with which they were willing sate Creditors of Turnpike Trusts. to acquiesce in any reasonable suggestion. It would be better to discuss the objections Irish Great WESTERN Railway.] The to the various clauses in their ‘regular Earl of Besborough brought up the Report order. He should, however, deceive the of the Select Committee on the Irish Great hon. Member, if he held out any hope Western (Dublin and Galway) Bill, to that he could consent to limit the duration which the petition had been referred. The of the Commission. Report (which the noble Earl read in a low Mr. Wakley moved “That no person tone at the Table) was understood to state, should be hereafter appointed to the Com- that it had not been the practice of this mission who was above the age of forty- Company to require references from appli cants for shares, and that allotments had Amendment negatived, been made to persons under feigned and The Committee divided on the Motion, fictitious names, and to paupers and others that the clause stand part of the Bill :- who had no means of paying the requisite Aves 43; Noes 3: Majority 40. deposits; that the system adopted was one Clauses up to Clause 9 inclusive were which tended to defeat the object of Paragreed to, and schedules were agreed to. liament in its rules on this subject, and The House r sumed. Report to be re that the reduction made last Session in the ceived. required amount of deposit had had the effect of facilitating the commission of fraud. The noble Earl concluded by movValuation (IRELAND) Bill.] Sir T. ing that the 'Report should be printed, . Fremantle moved " That the House s d together with the evidence in the case, and resolve itself into Committee on this hnol” that it should be referred to the Committee Sir R. Ferguson objected to proceeding on the Bill. with the Bill at that hour. Lord Brougham expressed his belief that An hon. Member moved that the House it would be better not to enter then into be counied, and twenty-three Members any discussion of that Report, but to wait only being present, the House adjourned until it was printed with the evidence, acat half past four. cording to the Motion of his noble Friend. five years." After a few words from the Marquess of Clanricarde and the Earl of Wicklow, Motion agreed to. APPREHENSION OF OFFENDERS.] The Earl of Aberdeen laid on the Table a Bill for facilitating the Execution of the Treaties with France and the United States of America, for the Apprehension of certain Offenders. We had received from France and America all the offenders for whom we had applied; but in consequence of technical difficulties, it had been found impossible to surrender to France any one offender, and to America only one or two. The Bill provided only that the warrant of the Secretary of State should in all cases be directed to some one of the police magistrates of the Metropolis, instead of the magistrates generally throughout the country, so that uniformity of decision should be secured. Bill read 2a. House adjourned. Reported.-Ecclesiastical Patronage (Ireland); Drainage (Ireland); Spirits (Ireland). 3o and passed: - Highway Rates; Militia Ballots Suspension; Loan Societies; Turnpike Acts Continuance; Un lawful Oaths (Ireland); Commons' Inclosure; Lunatic Asylums and Pauper Lunatics; Bills of Exchange; Geo logical Survey; Unclaimed Stock and Dividends; Criminal Jurisdiction of Assistant Barristers (Ireland); Bail in Error; Lunatic Asylums (Ireland). Private. -1°. Birmingham Blue Coat School Estate; Sampson's Estate; Sir Robert Keith Dick's Estate. Reported. Grimsby Docks (re-committed); Duddeston and Nechells Improvement (No. 2) (re-committed): Lon don and Croydon Railway Enlargement (re-committed); London and Croydon Railway (Maidstone, Ashford, and Tonbridge); South Eastern Railway (Maidstone to Rochester); South Eastern Railway (Ashford to Hastings); Rye and Tenterden Railway; Rothwell Prison; Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock, and Ayr Railway (Barrhead Branch). 3o and passed:-Yoker Road (No. 2); Gravesend and Rochester Railway. PETITIONS PRESENTED. By Sir R. H. Inglis, from George Barnes, B.D. Archdeacon of Barnstaple, against Ecclesi astical Courts Bill.-By Mr. Baring, and Sir R. Peel, from British-born Jews of Portsmouth, and London, in favour of Jewish Disabilities Removal Bill.--By Sir R. H. Inglis, from Inhabitants of Boningale, against Union of St. Asaph and Bangor.-By Mr. Duncan, from Boyd, New South Wales, for Repeal of certain Acts relating to that Colony.-By Mr. Hawes, from Factory Workers, and others, of Cowcliffe, in favour of the Ten Hours System in Factories.-By Mr. Masterman, from the City of London, for Inquiry into the Treatment of Lunatics.-By Physic and Surgery Bill.-By Mr. W. Williams, from Se General Morison, from Mr. MacMillan, in favour of nior Students of the School of Design, Somerset House, for Inquiry (School of Design).-By Mr. Masterinan, from Sugar Refiners of London, against Smoke Prohibition Bill.-By Mr. Villiers, from Captain Charles Stewart, late of Her Majesty's 24th Regiment of Infantry, for Inquiry into his Case. The House met at twelve o'clock. INCLOSURE OF COMMONS.] The Earl of Lincoln moved the Order of the Day for the Third Reading of the Inclosure of Commons Bill. posed this Bill, and would still oppose it, Colonel Sibthorp had from the first opbecause he thought proper time had not been given for its due consideration. There might be some good clauses in it; but it object to the Bill altogether, unless it were was of so important a nature that he should for some time postponed. Mr. Eliot Yorke hoped that the House would at once proceed with the considertion of the Bill, as it was calculated to be of great benefit to all classes of the community. Mr. Sharman Cranford felt it to be his duty again to state his objections to many parts of the Bill, as they had not been removed in its former stages. The Bill was calculated to benefit the landlords alone, and would not be advantageous to the working classes, who ought to be considered. In proof of what he stated, he would quote the evidence of Mr. H. Martin, of Hadlow, in Kent, who had stated that the rent of common land, which was formerly 16s. per acre, had now risen to 27. per acre. Under these circumstances, he would not now further trouble the House; but when the question should be put that the do pass into a law, he would divide the House. Mr. Becket Denison regretted deeply that the hon. Member for Rochdale, whose character for benevolence stood very high in that House as well as out of it, should be found to oppose the Bill, especially as his influence and importance among the labouring poor were very great. He was sure that if that hon. Gentleman should succeed in rejecting the Bil, he would sooner or later regret that success; for he would find that he had been doing a great injury to the labouring poor residing on the borders of the commons which, by this Bill, would be enclosed. He would give his most cordial consent to the Bill. The Earl of Lincoln said, that sufficient time had been given for discussion on this Bill, since it had been before the public nearly three years. The measure, he was sure, would be found to be of the greatest Sir R. Ferguson objected to the clause, advantage to the labouring poor, as well as and for the same reasons. to the landlords and landowners. Sir Thomas Fremantle stated that the Order of the Day read. Bill read a object of the clause had been misunder. third time. stood. It was not intended to give the On the Question that the Bill do pass, Commissioners the power of trying quesMr. Sharman Crawford contended again tions of properly; but it was intended to that the mode of distribution of land, as prevent parties from erecting weirs, after proposed by this Bill, was most arbitrary its being ascertained by law that they hail and unjust; and as bis objections bad failed no authority to do so. to be considered, he should feel it his duty Sir W. Somerville was as anxious as any to divide the House on the Question. one to prevent the erection of illegal weirs; The House divided :-Ayes 48 ; Noes 0 : but it would be extremely hard that persons Majority 48. who had a right to erect weirs should have Bill passed. that right decided by the Commissioners, or The two Tellers for the Noes were, Mr. have an expensive appeal to reverse his Sharman Crawford and Colonel Sibthorp. decision. Captain Jones was of opinion that the Drainage of Lands. ] The Earl of clause, as at present worded, would cerLincoln moved that Mr. Speaker do leave tainly give that power to the Commis sioners. the Chair, for the House to go into Com Mr. George Hamilton said, after the exmittee on the Drainage of Lands Bill. Colonel Sibthorp said, though his objec-only question was, whether the clause car planation of the right hon. Baronet, the tions to the Bill that had just passed were ried out the intention. The right hon. very great, his objections to the present were to be, the protection and screening of those honâ fide claim, but only to prevent a tres. even stronger; for its object seemed to him Baronet stated, it was not intended to give the Commissioners the power of trying a who had benefited themselves at the expense of others, and because it gave such pass.. The language of the clause appeared great power to the Commissioners to inter- explained by a provision at the end, simi to him ambiguous; perhaps it might be fere with the private property of gentle-lar to that in the Malicious Trespass Act, The Earl of Lincoln said, that none of excluding jurisdiction where there was a the Commissioners, or Assistant Commis. boná fide claim of right or title. sioners, would venture to proceed anywhere to show that this rule held good at Com The Attorney General quoted some cases to undertake surveys or operations provided by this law, without being first applied to mon Law in all summary jurisdictions. Sir Robert Ferguson thought that some by the owner of the land. explanation was necessary. Mr. Sharman Crawford hoped that the hon. and gallant Colonel would not proceed duction of such a provision. It was desir Mr. George Hamilton urged the introwith his opposition to this Bill, for he thought it was a reasonable Bill, and would able that the intention of the Legislature should be clearly expressed. be productive of great good. Sir Thomas Fremantle would accede to House went into Committee. The Bill passed through Committee, and House re the suggestion of his hon. Friend. sumed. Report to be received. Bill went through Committee. The House resumed. Bill to be re ported. FISHERIES (IRELAND).] House in Committee on the Fisheries (Ireland) Bill. AMALGAMATION OF RAILWAYS.] Mr. On Clause 3, “ Power of Commissioners Milner Gibson begged to call the attention to hear complaints and remove illegal of the right hon. the Vice President of the weirs,” Board of Trade to a Clause of an unpreCaptain Jones thought this clause ex- cedented nature which had been introtremely objectionable. It gave the Com. duced into the Manchester and Liverpool missioners the power of trying questions of Railroad Bill, which gave to the proprieproperty probably to a large amount. It tors the power of amalgamating with other was true there was an appeal ; but was it companies without any further application reasonable that parties should be drawn to to Parliament. A similar clause had found such an appeal? its way into certain other Bills. He wished men. |