estimates now before the House was to enable them to extend their railway accommodation, and the revenue was in excess of the estimated expenditure. With reference to the increase in the expenditure of the Civil Service, he had explained last year, that the Engineers whose salaries were previously charged against Public Works, had been transferred to the Department of Public Works, and still that department did not show any increase. Similarly the Adjutant General's Department had been transferred to the Department of Militia, and yet the expenditure of that Department was not so much as in 1867. Of the increases last year $8,000 was the salary of the Lieut. Governor of Manitoba, and $14,000 for Post offices in the cities of Montreal and Quebec and other places, and by deducting those amounts, it would be seen that there was no increase over the previous year. He would like his hon. friend to point out the figures, and show where they could not be justified; any increase would bear the most rigid investigation and scrutiny. The hon. gentleman had referred to the lighthouse service and the increased cost thereof. He (Mr. Tilley) felt sure that there was no service in the country which would be more cheerfully sustained, and appropriations made for, than that which would light our coasts and make navigation sure, thereby saving risk-and reducing the rates of ocean freightage and insurance. He was satisfied that the revenue and

surplus for the next ten years would be sufficient for the execution of the public works foreshadowed by the Minister of Finance. Even if there should be a re. action in the commercial prosperity of the country, the population was increasing at the rate of two and a half per cent, and if the revenue did not increase propor. tionately, there would still be more than sufficient, with the surplus, to pay the interest on the liabilities and supply the wants of the country. He agreed with the hon. member for Sherbrooke that the Minister of Finance was quite right in not dealing with the surplus, as the country will be in a better position to meet all liabilites promptly, and he could see no fear whatever of difficulty arising out of the undertakings mentioned by the Minis ter of Finance.

Hon. Mr. MACKENZIE spoke in the strongest language of the Speech of the Hon. Minister of Irland Kevenue, and referred to the course which he (Mr. Mac kenzie) had pursued with regard to the subsidies to the various Provinces. He did not look with serious apprehension to

any great national calamity, but the financial policy of the Minister of Finance was calculated to bring on commercial depression.

Hon. Mr. CHAUVEAU explained the policy of the new born National Party of the Province of Quebec, and showed that the hon. member for Lambton had given that party a most severe rebuke, having denounced the platform on which all their hopes are based.

The House then went into Committee of Ways and Means, Mr. Street in the Chair-Reported and asked leave to sit again.

Hon. Sir J. A. MACDONALD moved the second reading of An Act to amend the law relating to the fraudulent marking of merchandize. He explained that it was an adaptation of the English Statute on the subject passed in 1862. The reason for the introduction of the Law was that a failure of justice had occurred in a late trial at Montreal where a person had been indicted under the Law as it now stands.

Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD moved

the second reading of the Bill, "An Act to make provision for the continuation and extension of the Geological Survey of Canada, and for the maintenance of the Geological Museum.

Hon. Mr. MACKENZIE had observed in the estimates, that in addition to the in

creased expenditure for this service, there were special votes for large amounts, and he moved to know whether such was neCessary.

He thought the vote of $45,000 was intended to cover all expenses. the absence of the Secretary of State for the Provinces, said the vote was intended to cover all the expenses, but that he supposed the additional sum asked for was an exceptional vote for British Columbia.

Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD-In

Act relating to Banks and Banking, and to amend the said Act, was read a second time, and referred to the Committee on Banking and commerce.

An Act to correct a Clerical Error in the

An Act respecting the public debt and the raising of loans authorized by Parlia ment was read a second time.

The House then went into Committee to consider the following resolution which was adopted:

Resolved,-That it is expedient to indemnify the Members of the Privy Council, the Auditor

General, and all other officers and persons concerned in the issue of a Special Warrant by His

Excellency the Governor General, upon an Order in Council made 17th October, 1871, under the provisions of the 35th Section of the Act 31 Vict., cap. 5, for the advance of the sum of one hundred thousand dollars to meet the expenditure on account of the Expeditionary Force which was or

dered to be sent to the Province of Manitoba, or in the expenditure of $62,150.72 for the said purpose out of the said sum of $100,000.00, detailed accounts of such expenditure having been laid before Parliament, and all the requirements of the Act aforesaid in the premises having been duly complied with. Also,

A resolution declaring it expedient to amend and consolidate, and to extend to the whole Dominion of Canada, the Law respecting the inspection of certain staple articles of Canadian produce, which was adopted.

An Act to amend the Act regulating the issue of Dominion Notes, was report ed by the Committee.

House adjourned at 10.30.

SENATE.

WEDNESDAY, 1st May, 1872. The SPEAKER took the Chair at 3 p.m.

PETITIONS.

Hon. Mr. HAZEN, from Committee on Standing Orders and Private Bills, report ed favourably on following petitions:

Of the Western Assurance Company; praying for certain amendments to their Act of Incorporation.

Of the Northern Railway Company of Canada; praying for an Act to consolidate into one lease, the present leases of the Toronto, Simcoe and Muskoka Junction Railway Company, and the North Grey Railway Company.

Of A. G. P. Dodge, of Township of West Gwillembury, in the County of York, Province of Ontario, and late of the City of New York, praying for an Act of natural ization.

Of Messrs. Gooderham and Worts, and others of the City of Toronto; praying to be incorporated as "The Mail Printing and Publishing Company."

Of the Hon. David Lewis Macpherson and others, of the City of Toronto, and elsewhere in the Dominion of Canada; praying to be incorporated as "The Inter. oceanic Railway Company of Canada."

Of Wm. L. Forsyth, and others, praying to be incorporated as "The Anticosti Company."

Of "The Canada Southern Railway Company," praying for power to construct a Railway Bridge over the Detroit River, at or near the Town of Amherstburg; and also, to construct a Railway Bridge over or a Tunnel under the St. Clair River; that two companies may be incorporated for these purposes, to be called respective. ly, the Detroit River Railway Bridge

Company," and the "St. Clair River Railway Bridge and Tunnel Company :" and that the Directors of the Canada Southern Railway Company be the Provisional Directors of the said Companies.

Of George Laidlaw, and others, of the City of Toronto; praying to be incorporated as the Lake Superior and Fort Garry Railway Company.

Of J. McGaw, and others of the Cities of Montreal, Toronto and Kingston, praying and Fire Insurance Company of Canada." to be incorporated as "The Inland Marine

Of R. Jas. Reekie and others, of the Dominion of Canada, praying for the passing of an Act to authorise them to construct a Railway westward, from Lake Nipissing through Fort Garry to British Columbia, with a terminus on the Pacific Ocean, and for other purposes.

Hon. Mr. BUREAU referred to the ne

cessity of having, in accordance with the notice which he had given for an address, a detailed statement of the revenue

arising from duties of Customs and other each of the Provinces of the Dominion of revenues of every kind proceeding from mission of the Province into the Union, Canada, from the Union, or from the aduntil the 30th June, 1871, and of the expenses of collection of such revenues, distinguishing the articles imported and exeach of the said Provinces, from the said ported and the duties paid thereon, in dates to the 30th June, 1871, and the such duties to the said dite. He then corresponding expenses of collection of withdrew his motion.

GEOLOGICAL SURVEY.

Hon. Mr. MACFARLANE asked whether the Report of the Geological Survey will be submitted to Parliament and when?

Hon. Mr. CAMPBELL-In a few days.

FISHERIES.

Hon. Mr. HAZEN asked: What was the expenditure incurred by the Dominion Government in protecting the Fisheries during the last season, and whether they can form any approximate estimate of the expenditure of the Home Government for the like service?

Hon. Mr. MITCHELL replied: The estimated cost of the Marine Police for the protection of the Fishery was during the past year about $84,000. With regard to the second branch of the question as to whether Government can form any approximate estimate of the expenditure of the Home Government for the like service, he stated that he could not give any reliable data on which to estimate the cost of such service but he is satisfied that it must amount to several hundreds of thousands of dollars.

ANNUITIES.

Hon. Mr. WARK moved that an humble Address be presented to His Excel lency the Governor General, praying that His Excellency will be pleased to cause such measures to be taken as will enable the Minister of Finance to convert into Life Annuities such portions of the Public Debt as may, from time to time be found necessary to meet the requirements of persons seeking such means of investment. In making the motion he stated that he had known very many persons, men and women well advanced in years, widows and orphans, and others, suffer heavy losses on account of the mismanagement and dishonesty of persons to whom they had entrusted their moneys, and he thought it yery advisable to estab lish the system in question, which would afford a fund where parties could find a safe investment. It was now sixty years since the system had been established in England, and it was now working admirably, although some losses were sustained at the outset by the Government, on ac. count of the trickery of stock jobbers; but such result need not be feared in this country, as the operation of the law could he well guarded.

Hon. Mr. CAMPBELL replied that the Minister of Finance had now the power to make the provision in question, and in tended offering some amendments in the same direction during the present session. Under these circumstances, the hon. gentleman would probably consent to withdraw his motion.

Hon. Mr. WARK consented.

IMMIGRATION.

Hon. Mr. CAMPBELL introduced a Bill to provide for the incorporation of Immigration Aid Societies.

PUBLIC LANDS.

The Bill in reference to the above 'subject was deferred until Monday next, French copy not being ready.

LARCENY OF STAMPS.

On motion of the Hon. Mr. CAMPBELL, the Bill in reference to Stamps was read a third time, and sent back to the House of Commons.

The House then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

WEDNESDAY, 1st May, 1872.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at 3 p.m. Several petitions were read.

Hon. Mr. MACKENZIE desired to present what was scarcely a legitimate petition. He had been sent a petition from Fort Garry by telegraph. It was from several persons who had been imprisoned during the rebellious troubles. It stated that Dr. Schultz had been rewarded for his losses at the rate of $10 a day, while they were only offered $2. They prayed for an enquiry into their losses.

By Mr. FERGUSON-Petition of the Huron and Lake Erie Canal Company.

Of the Toronto Corn Exchange praying for a line of steamers to open up trade to Halifax in Nova Scotia.

By Mr. SHANLY-For a Railway to connect Ottawa with Montreal.

Of the Chairman of the Board of Com. merce, Greenock, Scotland, &c., praying for certain measures to prevent the desertion of seamen in Canada.

A Petition was read from Major Bernard, of Douglastown, District of Gaspe, Province of Quebec, stating that he was literally dead, and praying for a pension. He (Major B.) had been injured, was sorry to succumb, but necessity knew no law, his shoulder had been dislocated, his ribs broken, and his memory affected. He hoped he would not meet with the reply of "no friends" (great laughter). He had lately lost two situations because he was unable to keep them.

Mr. JONES (Halifax) introduced a Bill to assimilate the law of Nova Scotia with those of other parts of the Dominion in respect to interest.

Mr. WORKMAN moyed, in absence of Mr. Ryan, member for Montreal West, for

leave to introduce a Bill to incorporate the Anticosti Company.

Hon. Mr. ABBOTT moved for leave to introduce a Bill to incorporate the Canada and Newfoundland Sealing and Fishing Company.

Hon. Mr. LANGEVIN submitted a report relating to the accident on the Windfor and Halifax Railway and other matters.

QUESTIONS BY MEMBERS.

Mr. BENOIT-Whether it is the intention of the Government to place funds at the disposal of the Honourable, the Minister of Agriculture, for the purpose of causing to be held an exhibition of cattle, agricultural and horticulture produce, and objects of art invention; &c., from all parts of the Dominion for the year 1872.

Hon. Mr. POPE.-It is not the intention of the Government to do so.

Mr. BENOIT- Whether it is the intention of the Government to make to the Boards or Councils of Agriculture in each Province, or to Agricultural Societies, grants of money which will enable them to promote the progress of Agriculture throughout the whole Dominion?

Hon. Mr. POPE-It is not the intention of the Government, although strongly spmpathizing with everything calculated to advance the progress of Agriculture, to do so?

Mr. CURRIER-When the Return to Address of 4th May, 1870, for a return of the names, origin, creed, position, and pay of the employes of the Dominion Gov. ernment will be laid before the House?

Hon. Mr. MORRIS-Either this week or beginning of next week.

Mr. DELORME (St. Hyacintbe) Whether it is the intention of the Govern. ment to take any steps towards preventing the emigration of Canadians to the United States, by holding out such material advantages as will induce Canadians to remain in their own country?

And,

Whether, under the Twenty-first Article of the Treaty of Washington, the fish and fish oil that are proposed to be admitted free of duty into the United States are meant to be only what are produced within the limits of the Dominion, or of tish caught by the subjects of the Dominion outside of the three mile limit, will be considered the produce of the Dominion fisheries, and admitted free of duty?

Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD would be obliged to his hon. friend if he would postpone these questions until after the discussion on the Washington Treaty.Postponed.

Mr. FOURNIER-Whether it is the intention of the Government to take under its control the wharves built upon the St. Lawrence, below Quebec, by means of loans from the Municipal Loan Fund, and to relieve the Municipalities from the debt which they have contracted in erecting the same?

Hon. Mr. LANGEVIN—The matter had engaged the attention of the Government, but no decision had yet been arrived at.

Mr. LAWSON-Whether it is the inten. tion of the Government to place a sum in the Estimates of the current year for the purpose of opening Big Creek (in the County of Norfolk), into the water of Lake Erie, for a Harbour of Refuge, in accordance with the petition to His Excellency the Governor General. of R. Abbott and 200 others?

Hon. Mr. LANGEVIN-It was the inten tion of the Government to have the matter of opening up of Big Creek inquired into by a competent engineer.

Mr. KEELER-Whether the lands of Presqu'Isle Peninsula and High Bluff, in the Township of Brighton, are the pro.

intention, either to sell, or lease, with right of cutting wood for fuel and fencing, to the present occupants as prayed by their petition of recent date?

Hon. Mr. POPE-The Government were doing everything in their power to induce emigrants from the United States and everywhere else to come to Canada ?

Mr. BOLTON-Whether, under Article Eighteen of the Treaty of Washington, United States fishermen will be expected to be governed, when fishing in Dominion

Hon. Dr. TUPPER-These lands were obtained for light house purposes, and it was not consistent with the public interest that any part of them should be either sold or leased.

Mr. MASSON, (Soulanges)—Whether it is the intention of the Government before commencing the works for the enlargement of the Canals of the Dominion to have a thorough examination made by competent Engineers of the North shore

of the Coteau Rapids in the Counties of Soulanges and Vaudreuil in order to ascertain if it would not be less costly and more advantageous in a commercial and strategetic point of view to build a new canal to the North of the said Rapids in preference to enlarging the existing Beau. harnois Canal, the building of which on the South shore of the said Rapids has been the cause of so much outlay and damage to property, outlay and damages, which if they continue, will, with the addition of the cost of enlargement, far exceed the cost of building a new canal on the North shore of the Coteau Rapids?

Hon. Mr. LANGEVIN-It will be taken into consideration by the Government. Mr. OLIVER moved for the correspondence relating to fees charged by American officials on goods and produce passing through the United States in bond. He stated that these charges were so heavy that it was almost impossible to send goods either to Europe or to the Maritime Provinces in bond, and it also operated very much against shipments to the United States, while at the same time the products of the United States passed through the Dominion without any fee or charge. He thought some steps should be taken by the Government to remedy the evil which was complained of in all parts of the country.

Mr. DE COSMOS said the question was one in which British Columbia was spe cially interested, as they imported largely from Great Britain via San Francisco and Panama. He understood that the charges alluded to were very exorbitant. The pack trade along the frontier was at times compelled to cross the border, when they had to crave indulgence

and assistance from the Custom House officers, often causing great expense. He hoped the Government would take up the matter in order that the charges might be made as low as possible. This was the more important in view of the large trade that was expected between British Columbia and the Dominion.

Mr. GIBBS was glad that the subject had been brought before the House as it was a very embarrassing one to the coun. try. In many instances the consular charges were so great that they amounted to a large tax upon some articles, such as coarse grains. He had no doubt that in the arrangement connected with the Washington Treaty this matter had received attention.

Mr. CURRIER was also glad that the question had been brought up, and hoped the Government would be induced to take steps to remove the grievance. It applied

more especially to the lumber trade than to any other, as the charges imposed on each barge load of lumber sent to the United States were enormous. He had not the details before him, but they amounted to a heavy tax upon the trade.

Mr. WHITE also represented the great inconvenience caused to the lumber trade, between Georgian Bay and the United States, in having to obtain the necessary consular certificate before the lumber could be shipped.

Mr. WORKMAN would like to say a word for the merchants of Montreal (hear, hear, and laughter.) The inconvenience and annoyance had been very great. The present Consular Agent at Montreal was not, however, so exacting as some of his predecessors, and consequently there was not the same amount of expense and trouble, but in view of the large trade which was expected to spring up with British Columbia he thought the Govern ment should make an effort to remove the grievance.

Mr. MERRITT would call attention to another point Canadian vessels trading on Lake Michigan were obliged to call at the first American port, and obtain a Consular certificate. The delay caused by this was a great tax on the trade.

Mr. HARRISON would, as the hon. member for Montreal had done with regard to that city, say a word on behalf of the merchants of Toronto (hear, hear.) He thought that something should be done to regulate these charges on goods in bond and to bring them down to the lowest possible amount, At present he believed there were no regulations on the subject, and it was im portant, in view of the arrangements under the Washington Treaty, that some correspondence should take place between the Government of Canada and that of the United States, in order, if possible, to do away with the grievance.

Hon. Mr. TILLEY said that it was quite apparent that it would be a very popular arrangement if the Government could succeed in obtaining a relaxation of the charges imposed by the United States. He might say that he was not very sanguine of success, because on other points the Government had found it exceedingly difficult to obtain the desired concssions. The difficulties were not confined solely to the charges made by the Government of the United States, but included charges made by persons who gave their bonds (Express companies, for instance), and became personally responsible. The correspondence, if there was any, would be