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amount of such claims may have been placed, to pay over the same immediately to the proper parties.

Hon. Sir GEO. E. CARTIER said that in 1870 the Government had paid all ac. counts presented by Commanding Officers. The Government did not pay such ac. He was not counts unless presented.

aware that any complaint had been made of any officer keeping back mo eys, which ought to have been paid to parties for the conveyance of troops.

Ilon. Mr. BLANCHET Whe her it is the intention of the Government to bring down, during the present session, a Bill for the Regulation of Weights and Mea. sures?

Hon. Mr. MORRIS understood that a measure had been framed by the Imperial Government, which they intended to pre sent to Parliament during the present session. and it was thought advisable to obtain the benefit of it before introducing a Bill here.

Hon. Mr. BLANCHET-Whether it is the intention of the Government to keep up, during the coming season, the naval force charged with the protection of the Canadian fishermen in the waters of the Gulf of St. Lawrence; and if so, whether Her Majesty's squadron is to give its support and co-operation to the Dominion force?

Hon. Dr. TUPPER-It is the intention of the Government to provide the ame force as before, and the Imperial Government would continue to aid the Dominion.

In reply to Hon. Mr. SMITH (Westmoreland), Hon. Mr. LANGEVIN said that it was the intention of the Government to provide additional railway stock on Government railways in New Brunswick.

Hon. Mr. LE VESCONTE-Whether it is the intention of the Government to enlarge the St. Peter's Canal so as to permit the passage of a paddle wheeled steamer through the locks thereof, and to facilitate the navigation through said canal by placing mooring buoys outside of each entrance thereto?

Hon. Mr. LANGEVIN said it was the intention of the Government to cause an examination of the canal to be made to ascertain what may be required.

In reply to Mr. CUMBERLAND, Hon. Mr. LANGEVIN said that it was the intention of the Government to place a sum in the estimates for the purpose of constructing a wharf at Prince Arthur Landing.

Mr. CUMBERLAND-Whether, in view of the large influx of miners and others to the Thunder Bay and Shebandowan districts, which in consequence of recent important mineral discoveries there, is expected to occur on the opening of navigation, it is the intention of the Government to make any additional provision by the establishment of a police force or otherwise, for the keeping of the peace and the maintenance of law and order in

those localities?

Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD said the matter was under the consideration of the Government.

Hon. Mr. McKEAGNEY-Whether it be the intention of the Government to estab lish a Savings Bank in the County of Cape Breton, and if so, when it may be expected to go into operation?

Hon. Sir FRANCIS HINCKS, said it was the intention of the Government to do so, and that it would come into operation on 1st July next.

Hon. Mr. CHAUVEAU-Whether it is the intention of the Government to adopt more effectual measures for the protection of Fish in the Rivers and Lakes North of Quebec; the said Lakes and Rivers being in many cases fished without any regard for the future. by foreign speculators?

Hon. Dr. TUPPER said it was the intention of the Government to take the most effectual measures in their power, but that much depended on the inhabitants themselves in the carrying out of the laws for the protection of fish in rivers and lakes.

In answer to Mr. Houghton, (Yale, B.C.) Hon. Mr. LANGEVIN said it was the intention of the Government to take mea

sures for the removal of one of the rocks known as the "Sisters," which endanger the navigation of the Fraser River in British Columbia, between New Westminster and Yale.

In answer to Mr. DE COSMOS,

Hon. Mr. HOWE said it was not the intention of the Government to make an appropriation for a Geological Museum in British Columbia. He would remark that no such Provincial Museums existed in the Dominion.

Mr. WORKMAN,-Whether it is the intention of the Government, in view of the great pressure of legal business at Montreal, and the reported indisposition of one of the Judges there, to appoint a fifth Judge for that City and District?

Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD said that an Act had been passed by the Quebec Legislature authorizing a sixth Judge

and it was the intention of the Government to ask a vote for the salary, when the appointment would be made.

Mr. WORKMAN,-Whether it is the intention of the Government, in view of the greatly increased cost of the necessaries of life, and the changes in society during the past twenty-five years, to increase the salaries of the Judges of the Province of Quebec, which were fixed at their present amount a great many years since, when the rearing and educating a family, and the cost of living, were less than one-half of what they now are, more especially in the cities of Montreal and Quebec.

Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD said it was not the intention of the Government to do so this year.

SURVEY AND MANAGEMENT OF INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.

Mr. JONES, (Leeds and Grenville) having moved for an address for statement of costs and charges connected with the survey and management of the Intercolonial Railway.

Hon. Mr. MACKENZIE asked when the report of the Commissioners would be presented.

Mr. WALSH replied that the Report was handed to the Government on Saturday last, and stated that it contained most of the information asked for in the motion of the honourable member for Leeds.

GAUGES OF GRAND TRUNK & INTERCOLO

NIAL RAILWAY COMPANY.

Mr. BODWELL, in moving for an address for correspondence, said that as the broad gauge and steel rails had been determined upon, he presumed there had been some correspondence, and hence his motion.

Hon. Mr. LANGEVIN said there had been none, and the matter dropped. CORRESPONDENCE IN REFERENCE TO UNION OF NEWFOUNDLAND AND PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND.

Mr. BODWELL having moved for the correspondence in connection with the above matter.

Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD said there had been none.

CHARGES AGAINST COL. SKINNER.

Mr. OLIVER moved for the correspon. dence relative to the charges brought against Col. Skinner, while acting as Captain of the Wimbledon team. One charge

was, that the men of the team had been accommodated in a very small room on their arrival at Liverpool; that at Kingston he had engaged the services of a German Jew as a servant and had paid for such services out of moneys belonging to the team, &c. Be thought that a matter, which was very injurious to the Volunteer Force, ought to be settled at once if possible. It was in the interest of the country that the dispute should be settled.

Hon. Sir GEO. E. CARTIER said there were no papers relating to this matter before the Government. The Ontario Wimbledon team was got up by private subscription. He was happy to learn that the Wimbledon team had gained in Eng. land a reputation which not only did them honor but added a lustre to the Volun teers of the Dominion. He repeated no correspondence whatever before the Government.

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The matter dropped.

Mr. METCALFE moved for Address for tal Clerk or Officer as extra pay during the return of amount paid to any Departmen fiscal year ending 30th June, 1871, &c.Carried.

Also-Address-Return of sums charged and received by Department of Justice, the Deputy of said Department or any Officer or Clerk thereof, by way of costs on moneys over due upon Ordnance Lands sold under authority, &c. Carried.

And also-Address-Return of money charged or received on account of salaries, extra service, travelling expenses or any other account by the several Deputy Heads and Officers of Departments at Ottawa, &c. Carried

dence in relation to the necessity of apMr. FOURNIER-Address-Corresponcial District in the Province of Quebec, pointing a resident Judge for each Judi&c.

Hon. Mr. DORION-Address-Correapondence on the subject of the division of the surplus of the debt of the former Province of Canada, &c.

Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD was not aware that there was any correspondence on the subject.

EMIGRATION TO FORT GARRY.

Mr. STIRTON moved for an Order of the House for statement of the expense of maintaining teams and men at Prince Arthur's Landing for conveyance of emigrants to Fort Garry.-Carried.

CENSUS.

Mr. STIRTON moved for an Order of the House for statement of payments

made in connection with the taking of the INDIAN COMMISSIONER FOR NORTHUMcensus up to the 1st March, 1872.

Hon. Mr. POPE said that all particulars connected with the taking of the census would be laid before the House in the course of the session, and the motion was consequently unnecessary.-Motion withdrawn.

SCHOONER "C. I. HORTON."

Hon. Mr. GRAY moved an address for copies of all correspondence respecting the alleged abduction of the American fishing schooner "C. H HORTON.-Car

ried.

FISH EXPORTED.

Mr. FORTIN moved an Address for a

return showing the quantity and value of fish exported from the Dominion to the United States and other foreign countries.

Hon. Mr. TILLEY said that all the information that could be given was contained in the Trade Returns already

before the House.

Mr. FORTIN said what he wanted to ascertain was the quantity of the different sorts of fish exported, which was not stated in the return mentioned. He thought this information and also particulars of the amount of Fresh Fish imported from the United States would be found very important in the discussion of the Treaty.

Hon. Mr. TILLEY said that all inform ation in the possession of the Government should be supplied.

Mr. FORTIN asked that if it was found that the Government could not give the particulars this year, they would do what was necessary to see that the particulars were obtained in future.

PENSIONS.

Hon. Mr. HUTCHISON moved an address for the names of all officers pensioned from 1st July 1871 to 1st April 1872.

Hon. Sir FRANCIS HINCKS referred the mover to a statement already before the House which contained the informa tion asked for.

BERLAND, N. B.

Hon, Mr. HUTCHISON moved for copies of correspondence respecting the appointment of a Commissioner or Commissioners for the Indians in Northumberland, N.B.Carried.

MEETING OF PARLIAMENT.

Hon. Mr. BLAKE moved for copies of correspondence with the Imperial Government as to the time of the meeting of the Parliament of Canada for the year 1872. He said that from the mention made in the Speech from the Throne, as to the action of the English Government in the matter, the Government must have contemplated informing the House on the subject, and he thought the papers should be submitted. Carried.

SILVER COIN.

Mr. OLIVER moved for statements Coin withdrawn and sold by the action of showing the amount of American Silver the Government, and the amount of new silver coin put into circulation since the

last returns were made.-Carried

INSOLVENCY LAWS.

On the Second Reading of Mr. COL. BY'S Bill. "An Act to repeal the InMr. Colby solvency Laws" coming up.

stated that he proposed to let the mat ter stand in consequence of the absence of many members particularly interested in the matter.

Upon this a conversation arose as to the expediency of his doing so in the course of which

Hon. Mr MACKENZIE said that a great majority of the House were in favor of the Bill, and that in fact it might have carried last Session, but for what he deemed an imprudent concession on the part of the mover, and he feared the same disaster might again result. He thought also that the Government were bound to state their views respecting the very important commercial interests involved in the repeal of the Insolvent Laws. The Government had intimation last Session of the intention of the House to repeal

Hon. Mr. HUTCHISON said he would these Laws, and it was their duty to have consult the statement referred to. Motion allowed to stand.

ABSTRACTION OF MONEY LETTERS FROM
HALIFAX POST OFFICE.

Hon. Mr. HUTCHISON moved for copies of all correspondence relative to the abstraction of money letters from the Halifax Post Office.-Carried.

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provided for such being done.

Hon Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD did not think the hon. member hid any right to use such language in the matter. The hon. gentlemen who had charge of the Bill, was above all suspicion, both in and out of the House, and was just as sincere as the member for Lambton, who had no right to take him to task as he had done.

Hon. Mr. MACKENZIE protested that he had not taken the mover to task as he had the most perfect confidence in him.

SENATE.

TUESDAY, 23rd April, 1872.

The SPEAKER took the Chair at three o'clock.

PRIVATE BILLS.

Hon. Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD said he could not then have perfect confidence in those who had advised the postpone. ment. There was plenty of time to get through the measure. As to the remarks Hon. Mr. HAZEN, from the Committee of the hon. member for Lambton, respect on Standing Orders and Private Bills, reing the duty of the Government, heported favourably on the following peti. thought them quite unnecessary. The tions, recommending in case of several Government did their duty to the satisfaction of a majority of the House, and he suspension of ordinary rule with reference believed to the satisfaction of the country. (Hear, hear.)

FISHERIES.

On a motion for adjournment, Hon. Mr. MACKENZIE asked when they might expect the papers asked for respecting the Fisheries and the Treaty, and also what papers would be brought.

Hon. Sir JOHN MACDONALD said that with respect to those asked for by the member for West Durham, he was unable to bring them down. They had been care. fully perused, and it was found that they

could not be submitted to the House or the country, without injury to the public interest, and without injustice to the Im perial Government. They would not however, in any way affect an intelligent discussion of the Treaty. To-morrow he would state what additional papers would be brought down.

LEGISLATION.

to notice:

Of Messrs. James Domville & Co., and others of the City of Saint John, in the Province of New Brunswick; praying for the passing of an act to authorise them to establish a Banking institution in the said City of Saint John.

Of W H. Howland and others of the City of Toronto; praying to be incorpor ated as he Toronto Corn Exchange As. sociation."

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On the Detroit River Tunnel Company; praying for the passing of an Act to amend their Act of incorporation, so that bonds may be issued on the guarantee of Railway Companies using the Tunnel and for other purposes.

Of the St. Lawrence and Ottawa Railway Company Company; praying for the passing of an Act to amend their Act of Incorporation, to authorize a further extension of their Railway, and for other pur

poses.

Of the Grand Trunk Railway Company of Canada, aforesaid; praying for the passing of an Act, to create a third mortgage Hon. Mr. BLAKE asked when Govern upon the lines and property of the Monment intended to give notice of the in-treal and Champlain Railway Company, troduction of the Bills spoken of in the newly purchased by the said Grand Trunk opening speech, Railway Company of Canada, and for other purposes.

Hon Sir JOHN A. MACDONALD said that the measure relating to the Treaty of Washington would be submitted imme. diately after the Budget Speech which would take place on Tuesday week. That relating to the Pacific Railway would be brought down in a very few days, and the Representation Bill either this week or

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Of J. C. Fitch and others of the City of Teionto; praying to be incorporated as "The Bank of Canada."

QUESTION OF "COPYRIGHT,"

Hon. Mr. RYAN-In pursuance with the notice which is on the minutes I rise to move,

"That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency the Governor General, praying that His Excellency will cause to be laid before this House, copies of all orrespondence with the Imperial Government, or with any person or persons Sitree the? Ch February, 1871, in relation to the question of Cyrisht, as well as to that of re-puding i ash Copyright works in Canada."

It will be in the recollection of the House that for the last four years a motion similar to this, or having relation to this subject, has been proposed by my. self, and addresses based on the motion have been regularly adopted by the

were in 1868 on out. We are therefore precisely in the same position that we this subject with this exception, that negotiations have been going on at different times between the Government here and the Imperial Government. In return to the address presented last year a new paper was sent down, and which has not yet been specially brought to the notice of the Honse though it is amongst the papers which were printed. In the Ses. sional Papers, Vol. 43. I find a report from the Minister of Finance and the Minister of Agriculture to the Governor General and Privy Council. They say: "What the undersigned would venture to suggest is that the duty on the re-prints of books first published, either in Great Britain or its dependencies, when imported from foreign countries, should be materially increased."

Senate, but I am sorry to say that. although the question is one of great importance to the interests of the country no result of any moment hos, so far, been produced by these frequent addresses, or the representations made by the Canadian Government to the British authorities in relation to the matter. Honourable gentlemen will probably recollect the history of this question. In 1868 when the first address of the Senate was passed we found it in this position. There was then a right which was acquired from the Imperial Government in 1849, to import British copyright books from the United States on the payment of a small duty, on condition of this duty being set aside to form a fund for the benefit of the author. a concession to This was intended as Canada, so that cheap literature might be imported into the country. But as time The object evidently of this suggestion went on, and our printing, like other inwis to put an end to importations from dustrial interests, increased, those who were engaged in the publishing business the United States but it is obvious that to do away with the power of importing felt it a grievance that whilst they were prevented from printing copyright works, these works would, of course, increase their importation from a foreign country the cost of literature in this country unwas actually allowed under the conditionless we are allowed to reprint them ourmentioned. The object of the Address which was presented to His Excellency at that time was to remove this grievance by giving the same right to our painters and publishers of printing British copyrights as was accorded, and still is accorded, to American publishers on the other side of the line. Our capabilities for printing such works cheaply were as great then as those possessed by the Americans - perhaps more so; and we appealed on the subject to the British Government through His Excellency the Governor General, and that Address was followed by despatches from the Government, which were brought down to this House on our motion in due course. The representation was made to the British Government that, as soon as ever measures were taken for the protection of the interests of the British authors in the shape of an excise, permission should be given for the reprinting of British copyrights in Canada I need not go through the various negotiations which have passed stace 1868 between our Government and that of Great Britain. You will recollect perhaps one important fact which I mentioned last year, and that was, that the prospect of an International Copyright Treaty with the United States was the chief impediment to having our wishes complied with. Great hopes were held out that that Treaty would be accomplished, but it fell to the ground, and there is no appearance at present that such a measure will be carried

We are yet, perhaps, too poor a selves. The report country to pay European prices for the "And that it should be literature which we require. goes on to say: levied in all cases for the benefit of the author or owner of the copyright, should such exist." Every gentleman will be prepared to join in the justice of that recommendation, that whilst we ask privileges of this sort we should certainly make provision for the benefit of the author whose work we should publish in this country. The object we have in view is to benefit the British author as well as the Canadian publisher whose interests are identical. The only interest that would be injuriously affected would be the British publishers, and they have, I believe, thrown many impediments in the way of our acquiring the privilege which "And to prevent evasion of we ask for. the law, a declaration should be requested from importers that any works which they may claim to import free of such duty BritBritain have never been published either in that foreigu Great dependencies ; ish reprints of works published in Canada should be wholly prohibited; that any author publishing in Canada should be, as at present, protected in his copyright, but that, unless Fritish copyright works should be published concurrently in Canada, licensed Canadian publishers should be allowed to publish, paying for the benefit of the author or owner of the English

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