P. What ground would you use for changing it? M H The cost and the uncertainty of the availability of the facilities. There's a real question as to whether they can do the construction M P M That's correct, and the arena out there is owned by two Canadians, and they're just acting tougher than hell. All Canadians are tough. And, there's no contract with them that covers some of these ah, so that you're not walking away from the City M H I don't know, frankly, I believe it would be mixed emotions. It's mixed, but with all the talk of the demonstrators H M I think a lot of San Diegians would be very happy to have them. go away. I would think that that would be the case. (Overlapping conversation) (Unintelligible) you build the fact that the arena is in trouble, Р in other words, you've got to find the cause. This subject H Р came up before, you know, you raised it, Bob, and said, well, our people are so stupid on public relations that I'm sure the way it would come out is we went because we didn't want to stay at the Sheraton where somebody I understand agreed I was to stay. No. I'm not even going to stay any place in San Diego -- I'm staying in San Clemente, but be that as it may that was apparently some story that they had. Well anyway, whatever it was, the question is whether or not at this point we could start the talk. It's awful hot incidentally, terribly hot. P Put it on the basis that the arena can't be finished. Can we do that? M Yes, as a matter of fact, I was going to say we're starting this, programming this, by sending people out to continue, and I say continue the negotiations with these Canadians because they don't want to give us a place for lead time in order to get in there to do the improvements, etc., etc. H Then we could start the cost thing and then (Overlapping conversation). Р I'd just say that the arena would not be finished. M Well, the cost factor goes in with the negotiations because if you don't get into the arena to do the reconstruction by a certain date your cost factors multiply and multiply and multiply .so you just (unintelligible) the same factor. In the meantime, I talked to Bebe this morning and a Miami Beach of course is P (Unintelligible). - - Well, if it's all set up safe television that's the major consideration. At least it's all there. Go to the stupid damned place again, and I got a place to stay this time I wouldn't have to stay in a hotel. M H Hank Myers, who has the contacts and so forth, quietly can vassing to see if the arena and the hotel rooms will be available. This time of year? M Oh hell, they run a lot of conventions. a They run a lot of conventions but they'll clear them out by that time. It isn't really, I've been there in June and August all have and they do run conventions, but generally speaking, it's still more open in the summer and the rates are lower. M So, if the only negative factors that I see in the change Р Is the admission of guilt in ITT, right? M Well, I think that that will go by the boards. Р Maybe that's better than just having the damned story rehashed again. M I would rather have the - if they can sell it as an admission of guilt now than I would have the television cameras on the Р M My theory is - It's the old story you know that a good poker player cut your losses get out of the bad box and get out of it fast. I don't know how our friend the Governor would take this. He might be damned glad to get the problems out of the way. I don't know, but we would do I could we have a situation where we have a break with the Canadians. You see what I mean? Create a conflict with them. M That's what we're Р And then go out and announce it, but it's got if for once we just one single solitary - and keep it out of Bob Wilson's hands right - but the problem is that the convention (unintelligible) that is the arena won't be ready, the cost is other side? So what? You got a base a story -- just stick with couldn't get the arena done -- made a mistake in surveying it. It's all fallen apart. P You've got to establish that immediately though. This is April, and the Convention is only five months away, and so everybody M 40-555 O-74-2 is going, as you know, now that's going to be ready - in Vancouver. (13) |